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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:48 am to Coeur du Tigre
Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:48 am to Coeur du Tigre
Zelenskyy: Putin fears US, no heavy attacks for two nights since Trump's envoy Kellogg arrived in Ukraine
OLEKSANDR SHUMILIN — Wednesday, 16 July 2025, 14:01
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy believes that Russian leader Vladimir Putin is afraid of the US, as heavy attacks have stopped since Keith Kellogg, US President Donald Trump's Special Envoy for Ukraine, arrived in Ukraine.
Source: Zelenskyy in an interview with Newsmax
Quote from Zelenskyy: "General Kellogg arrived in Ukraine, and there were no massive bombings for two nights in a row. This is a very interesting example. There were no heavy attacks this night and the previous night. Even people are already joking about it, saying that we should give General Kellogg a Ukrainian passport and leave him here. And Americans should come to us more often … What does this mean? That Putin deliberately bombs civilians, but when the Americans are here, he doesn't do it."
Details: Zelenskyy also added that this means Putin is afraid of the US.
Ukrainska Pravda
OLEKSANDR SHUMILIN — Wednesday, 16 July 2025, 14:01
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy believes that Russian leader Vladimir Putin is afraid of the US, as heavy attacks have stopped since Keith Kellogg, US President Donald Trump's Special Envoy for Ukraine, arrived in Ukraine.
Source: Zelenskyy in an interview with Newsmax
Quote from Zelenskyy: "General Kellogg arrived in Ukraine, and there were no massive bombings for two nights in a row. This is a very interesting example. There were no heavy attacks this night and the previous night. Even people are already joking about it, saying that we should give General Kellogg a Ukrainian passport and leave him here. And Americans should come to us more often … What does this mean? That Putin deliberately bombs civilians, but when the Americans are here, he doesn't do it."
Details: Zelenskyy also added that this means Putin is afraid of the US.
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:47 am to cypher
Trump stated he had great conversations with Putin, thought they had a deal and next thing you know he's firing rockets at Kiev. I think he's been very patient with Russia but wants the war ended NOW, the NATO deal for Ukraine is the find out part of Putin being dishonest in negotiations.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:10 am to CitizenK
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The problem is that he has gone full OML about Trump. It Trump is not your cup of tea, I have no problem with that. If Trump is your cup of tea, I have no problem with that. Just never go full OML
The problem is he is a nutcase and he continues to get worse. You are right though, he is the leftist version.of OML He reminds me of this guy:

Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:13 am to cypher
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Minister’s Suicide Highlights Kremlin’s New Definition of Unforgivable Sins
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The apparent suicide of Russia’s recently dismissed transport minister, Roman Starovoit, shortly before his likely arrest on corruption charges was a major shock for the Russian elite. Not only was it an unprecedented event for post-Soviet Russia, it also shone a spotlight on how the Russian political system has changed.
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Since the start of the war in 2022, the number of sins considered “unforgivable” by the Kremlin has broadened to include anything seen as helping the enemy. That includes public statements criticizing the regime (hence the tightening of the laws on “foreign agents” and “undesirable organizations”), profiteering by businesses that harms Russia’s military readiness (hence the wave of recent nationalizations), efforts to move money abroad, and even trying to wear two hats by running both a domestic and international company.
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These sorts of cases look set to become more and more common. Other influential figures—like defense corporation boss Sergei Chemezov, Rosneft head Igor Sechin, and the powerful Kovalchuk brothers—will also likely find themselves forced into ditching those who look to them for protection. They will be unable to save protégés, loyal subordinates, or those who benefit from their patronage from the clutches of Russia’s repressive machine.
The war has made once-influential figures much less powerful, their interests crushed beneath the wheels of a system that sees itself engaged in a battle for survival. Going forward, increasingly senior officials will become vulnerable as offenses deemed “unforgivable” grow in number and scope. The war has unleashed processes within Russia that may end up consuming even the regime’s most powerful figures.
As we discussed before, Starovoit was a protected middle man in a powerful family in the Russian political world. These protégés, like their protectors, knew the rules of staying out of legal trouble in Putin's world.
But the rules are changing. Avoiding acting in any way seen as 'helpful to the enemy' may seem to be easy on paper, but in reality, with the current spending on the Russian MIC, almost impossible to achieve. The recent number of arrests and corporate seizures underscore this. Thus the high level of anxiety among the Russian oligarchical families.
And yes, the arrests and seizures will continue.
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:17 am to Nole Man
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If tweet fails to load, click here. trump fooled himself.Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:35 am to Coeur du Tigre
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According to the Wall Street Journal, after watching footage of the Russian missile strikes on Ukrainian cities late on July 11, Donald Trump called Friedrich Merz by phone and expressed frustration over Putin’s continued aggression against his smaller neighbor.
Merz was surprised but soon realized that Trump had lost patience with Putin. According to officials, Trump said he was now ready to accept an offer Merz had made several days earlier — to use German funds to purchase American weapons for Ukraine.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:38 am to texas tortilla
This is basically correct. Like it or not Putin's demands haven't changed since his June 14 declaration. Russia has been consistent but no one from the west has been willing to listen to what they were saying or to accept it. Trump tried to get Putin to cut a deal with the promise of better relations. Putin would not budge because he is winning.
The west has very little leverage to stop Putin before he achieves his goals.
The west skipped on the time to negotiate when Ukraine took all of that territory back in the Kharkiv and Kherson regions. Putin would have compromised then.
The west got greedy and stupid, thought Ukraine could win but never committed the resources needed for a knock out blow to maintain that momentum. Or they didn't really care and were only going to provide enough to punish Russia as Loyd Austin actually said. The west actually forgot about the total disparity of resources in the long run.
The west has very little leverage to stop Putin before he achieves his goals.
The west skipped on the time to negotiate when Ukraine took all of that territory back in the Kharkiv and Kherson regions. Putin would have compromised then.
The west got greedy and stupid, thought Ukraine could win but never committed the resources needed for a knock out blow to maintain that momentum. Or they didn't really care and were only going to provide enough to punish Russia as Loyd Austin actually said. The west actually forgot about the total disparity of resources in the long run.
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:45 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Russian State Duma deputy Sergey Mironov stated that inflation in Russia rose to 0.79% in the first week of July, marking one of the highest increases in recent years.
"Prices in Russia are constantly rising — electricity prices have increased by 13%, gas by 13.5%, and water by 14.9%. Such a sharp inflationary spike during this period has never occurred before. This is the steepest increase in recent years."
So it starts. Cutting the official interest rates will only accelerate this problem and once inflation starts its cycle, they won't be able to control it. And the Ru working middle class will pay for every kopek.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:00 am to texas tortilla
No one was privy to the Trump-Putin conversations so how does anyone know what was said? We don’t.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:06 am to doubleb
We know Putin hasn't budged off of the June 14 demands. Trump was not willing to accept those. So apparently Putin politely rebuffed Trumps offer. Putin is not going to accept a ceasefire. Why should he? He is winning.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:10 am to AU86
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Putin would not budge because he is winning.
Ukraine isn’t winning, but neither is Russia really. If at the end of the day Russia has gained Ukraine at an astronomical cost, is that really winning?
Ask France what they won as a result of WWI. Ask England.
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The west has very little leverage to stop Putin before he achieves his goals.
They have enough to make Russia pay dearly.
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The west skipped on the time to negotiate when Ukraine took all of that territory back in the Kharkiv and Kherson regions. Putin would have compromised then.
There is no evidence of that. It’s just wishful thinking
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The west got greedy and stupid, thought Ukraine could win but never committed the resources needed for a knock out blow to maintain that momentum. Or they didn't really care and were only going to provide enough to punish Russia as Loyd Austin actually said. The west actually forgot about the total disparity of resources in the long run.
The West was surprised the Russian military was so bad. They were slow to wake up to this fact. Russia has yet to take control of the air and except for their terror attacks and some small tactical gains, they haven’t been able to make and major territorial gains in Ukraine.
If this were football it would be like Alabama a 42 point favorite over Middle Tenn State holding on to a three point lead late in the third quarter. Sure Bama is winning, but they sure aren’t making their supporters happy.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:24 am to doubleb
Okay.
We will just have to wait and see who is right when the end comes.
We will just have to wait and see who is right when the end comes.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:33 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Russian journalist and pro-Z “patriot,” Dmitry Borisenko — host of the internet outlet ??????? ????????? — stated:
"A new phrase has emerged among our troops on the front lines: 'taking a city on credit'. This means a city or settlement hasn’t actually been captured, but reports are sent ‘upstairs’ claiming it has been."
"But credit must be repaid. That’s when the so-called ‘meat assaults’ begin — frontal attacks using expendable infantry, resulting in massive casualties in both manpower and equipment."
"Talk of Ukrainian army demoralization is exaggerated. There are no signs of this within their units — they continue to fight with resilience."
"The Russian army is facing numerous problems, including difficulties with unit replenishment, communication failures, and shortages of drones and military equipment."
"But the army’s biggest problem lies in its command structure. The hierarchy is set up in such a way that what matters most is sending glowing reports to the top — reports that senior leadership wants to hear, regardless of the reality on the ground."
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:43 am to AU86
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We will just have to wait and see who is right when the end comes.
The longer the war goes the chance of there being two losers goes up.
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:42 am to doubleb
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The longer the war goes the chance of there bring two losers goes up.
Yes, the demographic collapse of both Ukraine and Russia will cause serious long-term damage.
And I don't think that Putin wants to continue "because he is winning." I think that Putin is stuck. If he ends the war, then Russia might collapse economically, and the Russian population would be outraged that they had sacrificed so much to accomplish so little.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:46 am to GOP_Tiger
Putin can't quit until he accomplishes his objectives. You are right there. His whole legacy depends on the outcome of this.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:59 am to AU86
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"There’s a reason why we have over 60 F-18s. We just bought 64 F-35s. There’s a reason why we have long-range missiles, air, land and sea. And there’s a reason why we have the biggest artillery in Europe, with Poland.
And the reason is not Sweden."
— Alexander Stubb, President of Finland
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:27 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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There’s a reason why we have over 60 F-18s. We just bought 64 F-35s
I don't think we really appreciate what a hammer the F-35 really is. Of course it has gotten a lot of criticism due to delays and cost overruns (MIC specialty).
But its performance over Iran was jaw dropping. Iran is totally defenseless. That was against "upgraded" 300 series Russian kit. But there's no evidence that it wouldn't have the same effect against 400 series gear.
There is simply no way a bad actor (China or Russia) prevail in a conflict where it has to go up against F35. Best available information it cannot be defeated from the ground. And in an air to air environment? It's not even worth mentioning. We have over 1000 F35 in service -- with more coming on every week -- and Russia has like 10 Su-57s. And China doesn't even have anything as good as Russia.
It changes the world security calculations until something radical occurs.
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:44 pm to AU86
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We know Putin hasn't budged off of the June 14 demands. Trump was not willing to accept those. So apparently Putin politely rebuffed Trumps offer. Putin is not going to accept a ceasefire. Why should he? He is winning.
The issue with the "Putin isn't winning, he just can't quit" argument that gets made in here almost daily is that its not like Putin has to get what he asked for on June 14th in order to call it a win. If he really were in too deep he has a lot of runway to come down from the big June 14th ask in my opinion.
The "he can't stop because of the economy" argument is more credible, but even then he could probably just call Trump and work out some kind of economic deal that might help Russia at least avoid a complete economic disaster (that isn't assured anyway).
Posted on 7/16/25 at 3:46 pm to Auburn1968
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Behind the scenes, Obama restructured the Ukrainian military and intelligence services. That's why Ukraine still exists today.
America's and NATO's militaries did that and CIA did their part. At least, Obama didn't stand in their way.
Trump gave Ukraine Javelins in his first term.
Obama also said that Russia will always have the escalation advantage in Ukraine because it is far more important to them than it will ever be to us.
Smart guy, at least in some aspects.
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