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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 7/16/25 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 4:00 pm to
Additionally, proximity to Russia gives Russia an advantage, Ukraine is at the end of a long supply line for us, its right next door to Russia.
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 4:17 pm to
The Russian “economic disaster” is an over exaggerated talking point here.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 4:25 pm to
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Last week, we read about the confiscation and arrest of Konstantin Strukov, the CEO of Russia’s third-largest gold producer Yuzhuralzoloto. As very few people in the Kremlin know anything about running a gold mining company, a re-sale was predicted to 'capture value'. Well, here it is, just a week later. This is what passes for corporate regulation in Russia.

Now the entire corporation is up for sale by Anton Siluanov, the Minister of Finance. That was some fast valuation-to-share price work. To say nothing about the quick resolution of all those pesky legal issues which were the basis for the seizure. But I'm sure prospective buyers will be allowed to review all the GAAP-compliant books before putting in a bid.

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Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 4:26 pm to
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The Russian “economic disaster” is an over exaggerated talking point here.


A downturn in Russia isn’t going to end the war, but it is going to impact their ability to fight the war. It will get harder and harder for Russia to replace their losses.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 5:37 pm to
Russia drops 500-kg bomb on shopping center in Donetsk Oblast — killing 2, injuring 28

July 17, 2025 12:14 am

Russian forces dropped a 500-kilogram (1,100-pound) aerial bomb on the city of Dobropillia in Donetsk Oblast, killing at least two people and injuring 28 others, regional officials reported July 16.

Vadym Filashkin, head of the Donetsk Regional Military Administration, said the strike targeted a shopping center in the heart of the city. The explosion damaged 54 retail outlets, 304 apartments, and eight vehicles, Filashkin reported on Telegram.

A fire broke out following the attack, according to officials, and emergency crews were dispatched to extinguish it.

The Kyiv Independent

Suspilne on-site report, enable CC for english translation

Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:37 pm to
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I don't think we really appreciate what a hammer the F-35 really is. Of course it has gotten a lot of criticism due to delays and cost overruns (MIC specialty).

But its performance over Iran was jaw dropping. Iran is totally defenseless. That was against "upgraded" 300 series Russian kit. But there's no evidence that it wouldn't have the same effect against 400 series gear.


So many allies moving to the F35 sure leaves a lot of F16's available for Ukraine. There are thousands of experienced pilots and maintenance crew too. Volunteer contractors could have them in action in no time.

That would level the playing field with air superiority.

Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:46 pm to
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That would level the playing field with air superiority.



If "we" really wanted Russia defeated...
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:48 pm to
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There are thousands of experienced pilots and maintenance crew too. Volunteer contractors could have them in action in no time.


The problem with your scenario is that out of the “thousands” of pilots maybe 10 give a frick.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:01 pm to
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There are thousands of experienced pilots and maintenance crew too. Volunteer contractors could have them in action in no time.


The problem with your scenario is that out of the “thousands” of pilots maybe 10 give a frick.


That's not true and it's not like they would be working for free.

Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:03 pm to
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The problem with your scenario is that out of the “thousands” of pilots maybe 10 give a frick.


Not the case at all. A friend who retired as an A-10 squadron commander told me that there were plenty of A-10 pilots who would fly in Ukraine and it is more about matching their skills against the foe. The problem with A-10 was a very long logistical support tail. This was back in 2022. He's also an Aggie.

A biz friend's son would leave LA Nat Guard (which made him a brig gen) in a heartbeat to get back to flying F-15E's which he did before becoming a col and forced behind a desk.
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:03 pm to
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That's not true and it's not like they would be working for free.


Yes it is very true. You think thousands of old retired pilots dream to go fly old equipment in Ukraine.

That is fricking stupid.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:08 pm to
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Not the case at all. A friend who retired as an A-10 squadron commander told me that there were plenty of A-10 pilots who would fly in Ukraine and it is more about matching their skills against the foe. The problem with A-10 was a very long logistical support tail. This was back in 2022. He's also an Aggie.

A biz friend's son would leave LA Nat Guard (which made him a brig gen) in a heartbeat to get back to flying F-15E's which he did before becoming a col and forced behind a desk.


A-10 would be a death trap in Ukraine.
Flying without the US C2/3/4/5/6/ISR advantages?

F-15 EX is a more valid plane for Ukrainian work.

But remember, the Russians knocked down some F-16s.

Flying outside the US bubble (Discounting the Israelis) is a different world.
The Indians proved that with their French planes.
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:18 pm to
Putin can't quit or lose because he would face a revolt from the Russian elite and murdered. There have already been multiple plots he has intercepted so far.

Ukraine is having so much success in Russia on knocking out plants etc because they are getting help from rebel Russians.

The reason the economy matters is that the war is already generally unpopular. If civilians start dying from starvation or going hungry too, Putin is in trouble.( if you have any understanding of Russian history at all that's pretty obvious.)


He knows he needs to end this war this year and he is trying to get as much land as he can and save face.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5738 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:25 pm to
Details Emerge About An-124 Condor’s Mystery Flight Through Kyiv’s Restricted Airspace

Howard Altman
Wed, July 16, 2025 at 5:16 PM CDT

The Antonov company today provided new details about its massive An-124-100 Ruslan (NATO reporting name Condor) cargo jet that mysteriously appeared in the highly restricted skies of Kyiv last week. The jet caused a stir because only military aircraft and limited government and rescue helicopter flights are allowed over Kyiv after Russia’s full-on invasion. Since then, runways have been blocked to prevent Russian landing attempts and international transportation to and from the Ukrainian capital has been conducted by train.

Condors have been used by the U.S. and other nations to move military supplies, including weapons provided to Ukraine and other outsized loads. The jets, one of the world’s largest aircraft, have been a source of pride in Ukraine, where they were manufactured.

As we suspected, we now know that this particular aircraft, tail number UR-82073, flew from the Antonov repair facility in Kyiv to the company’s new headquarters in Leipzig, Germany on Friday. The flight was launched after completion of a four-year modernization effort, the company explained on Facebook. That work began before the outbreak of the all-out invasion of Ukraine.

You can see the jet taxi and take off from Kyiv and land to a water cannon salute in Leipzig in the following video.



The WarZone

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:04 pm to
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A-10 would be a death trap in Ukraine.
Flying without the US C2/3/4/5/6/ISR advantages?


They were designed so that 50% would get to target vs USSR

The point is that a lot of pilots were aged out of their jets. My biz friend's son went from USAF to NG because they let him fly. USAF had desked him.

Many would fly just for to test their skills vs Russian skills.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
8293 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:24 pm to
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Many would fly just for to test their skills vs Russian skills.

That world is long dead.
Pilots today fly with the backing of their entire nations military power behind them.

A solo pilot put into a Ukrainian environment without the US joint environment would be dead really fast.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 10:27 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41430 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 11:04 pm to
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Many would fly just for to test their skills vs Russian skills.


No they wouldn’t. More made up fantasy
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:44 am to
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This type of action will be a large component of any warfare in the future. IT security already rules the world and will increase in influence going forward as this type of crime does not recognize any ceasefire.


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EU anti-crime agencies Europol and Eurojust announced on July 16 they had led the dismantling of a pro-Russian cybercrime network responsible for cyberattacks on critical infrastructure in Europe.

The cyber-network, known as NoName057(16), was allegedly dismantled after authorities conducted 24 raids in 12 countries between July 14 and 17, Europol said. The investigation led to two arrests, with one being carried out in France and another in Spain.

Authorities also issued seven arrest warrants, targeting six individuals in Russia, including two arrest warrants for individuals identified as central figures in the criminal network.

"The actions led to the disruption of an attack-infrastructure consisting of over one hundred computer systems worldwide, while a major part of the group's central server infrastructure was taken offline," Europol announced in a statement.

Authorities allege that the hacking group, which is mainly Russian-speaking and ideologically aligned with Moscow, carried out 73 denial-of-service (DDos) attack per day, on average, first primarily targeting Ukraine, later shifting focus to attack Kyiv's European and NATO allies.

France24 reported that the cyber group had been responsible for critical infrastructure attacks, including on Europe's electricity suppliers and public transport systems.

Czechia, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Poland, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and the United States participated directly in the investigation, with the support of a number of other countries, including Ukraine.

Since the start of Russia's full-scale war in February 2022, Russia and its proxies have launched thousands of cyberattacks on Ukraine's critical infrastructure, including power grids, telecom networks, the financial system, in an attempt to disrupt the country's abilities to sustain its defenses.

In addition to coordinating cyberattacks against Ukraine, the Kremlin continues to target Ukraine's Western allies as it attempts to disrupt military supplies for the embattled country and damage Western resolve.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 2:56 am to
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"The authors of the statement call on the ICC to expand the investigation of Russian war crimes to the financial system, which is used to establish control over the occupied territories where people are forced to accept Russian citizenship to open accounts after Russia banned the circulation of the Ukrainian hryvnia and forced people to convert money into rubles." - Moscow Times
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Developing "a new area of law...rarely used." - Ukrainian Legal Advisory Group


Legally, the ICC's evidentiary rules for establishing the arrest warrant are a low bar in comparison to actual case law. However, once the warrants are issued, they cannot be withdrawn without a formal representation in The Hague. That won't happen so these two, and probably more later, are stuck in Russia. No Italian vacations for you, Elvira.



Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 3:09 am to
Russia Quietly Cancels Flagship Arms Expo – Reports

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Russia’s Defense Ministry has quietly canceled this year’s Army-2025 military and technical forum, its largest annual defense exhibition where the country typically showcases its latest weapons and military innovations, the pro-Kremlin daily Izvestia reported Wednesday, citing an anonymous source familiar with the situation.

The Kommersant business daily later corroborated the report, citing several sources in the defense industry. The forum, which had been scheduled for Aug. 11-14 at the military-themed Patriot Park outside Moscow, has been removed from the venue’s event calendar without explanation.

An archived version of the Patriot Park website shows Army-2025 on its calendar. The official Army-2025 website remains active, and no formal announcement of the cancellation has been made through its Telegram channel or VKontakte page.

Held annually since 2015, the Army forum serves as the Defense Ministry’s flagship platform for presenting new technologies from Russia’s defense industry.

Though the event has never been canceled before, not even during the Covid-19 pandemic its scale has diminished in recent years. After traditionally spanning a week, the 2024 edition was shortened to three days.

Organizers had previously claimed that more than 800 companies, including some international participants, had reserved exhibition space for this year’s event. The Defense Ministry has not yet confirmed the reports.


Damn, hundreds of Russian prostitutes will have to apply for welfare.

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