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Posted on 7/15/25 at 7:01 am to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 7:01 am to
Trump's ultimatum: US Senate puts Russian sanctions on hold – Politico

Ivanna Kostina, STANISLAV POHORILOV — Tuesday, 15 July 2025, 14:11

US Senate Majority Leader John Thune has said he will not promote a package of sanctions against Russia's trading partners after US President Donald Trump had issued an ultimatum to Russia to encourage Kremlin leader Vladimir Putin to move towards a peace deal with Ukraine.

Source: European Pravda, citing Politico

Quote from Thune: "It sounds like right now the president is going to attempt to do some of this on his own. If at some point the president concludes that it makes sense and adds value and leverage that he needs in those negotiations to move the bill, then we’ll do it. We’ll be ready to go."

The bill, drafted by Senators Lindsey Graham and Richard Blumenthal and with 85 co-sponsors in the Senate, authorises Trump to impose secondary tariffs of at least 500 per cent on imports from countries such as China, Brazil and India that still trade with Russia.

Thune suggested that Trump's threat means the Senate will no longer need to pass the Graham-Blumenthal bill.

"We are going to try as best we can ... coordinate strategies with the White House, obviously with the House," Thune said.

Action in the House of Representatives also appeared unlikely following Trump's statements. Asked whether sanctions legislation would emerge before the House adjourns for summer recess at the end of this month, Majority Leader Steve Scalise said: "Not right now".

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 7:59 am to
LINK simplicius is out with his analysis of trump's weapons announcement yesterday.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:31 am to
quote:

3:00 am instead of 2:00 am. But I was close.


I have to admit, you called it.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:45 am to
All you have to do is follow his posting pattern. It is strange but consistent.

I also repeal my request for Cope to be banned. He is too entertaining.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 8:50 am to
I think for the most part people have been sticking to war news and the thread is going better so far.

Posted by AU86
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 9:36 am to



Well it looks like the pushback has already started on the 5% spending on Nato by some of the European "allies".

These socialist welfare lovers will never meet that goal or if they do they will cook the books to do it. Some of them are already counting public works projects as defense spending.

European defense is a farce.
This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 9:39 am
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 9:39 am to
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Well it looks like the pushback has already started on the 5% spending on Nato by some of the European "allies".



If they spend 5% on defense, how are they going to pay to import the third world to take over their countries?
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 9:43 am to
quote:

-Arms sales

-a live testing ground for modern arms and tactics

-war with Russia without US casualties

-erode Russia's global standing

Are any of these bad things?

When you consider this in light of our competition with China, its telling Russia the price of being Hostile to NATO.


In a vacuum? Of course not.

The cost here, if there is/was some path to stop the war at a cost that would likely be uncomfortable for Ukraine, is hundreds of thousands of human lives though.

I think there probably is (or was) some kind of deal where we could get Russia to stop, though I'm not going to pretend that is definitely the case (like some here will do in saying there definitely wasn't an offramp, despite no way of actually knowing that).

But if there wasn't, then I guess we might as well take advantage of the situation.

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 9:44 am to
Any government over there that proposes cutting their social welfare benefits will be ran out of town on a rail. They will riot in the streets.

These people are not serious regarding defense.

And their "immigrants" are immediately put on those benefits.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 10:16 am to
You need to calm the PHUCK down. Even Mark Kelly is extremely happy about. On this issue go phuck yourself you're acting like OML
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26917 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 10:33 am to
We are likely to have a bunch of old cruise missiles aging out that are guided by terrain rather than GPS. Ukraine could dispose of them for us.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26917 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 10:40 am to
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Other than 12 Patriot batteries (not just missiles) Trump is holding the cards very close to his chest on what is being sent. The Patriot batteries can be deployed in places other than cities now. This makes them offensive weapons able to shoot down Russian jets well beyond the front lines.



"Standing for the Phased Array Tracking Radar to Intercept on Target, the Patriot's batteries consist of eight launchers, each with the capacity to fire four missiles.

The system can track 100 threats from 60 miles away and its missiles cost $3m each and, despite having a long range, they are not primarily designed to defend entire cities."

That might push those glide bomb launches away from effective range.
This post was edited on 7/15/25 at 10:44 am
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 10:55 am to
4 mile range, but looks good to protect high value targets.

Posted by cypher
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:20 am to
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 11:36 am to
Obama's blankets and 1st aid kits were so more effective?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 12:20 pm to
This blows that fake Indian WION out of the water. Everyone knows that Indian news is clickbait only and not worth a crap.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:13 pm to
Hey everyone! I just thought I'd pop in to get Lord Bebo and ayden's thoughts about the new $10 billion in weapons that Ukraine is getting, but I don't see them anywhere.

What happened to the Twitter feeds of all of our favorite Russians? Is "John Barron" not posting in here anymore?
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
42753 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:17 pm to
GOP pops in, now we just need Stormy back!
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 1:22 pm to
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What happened to the Twitter feeds of all of our favorite Russians? Is "John Barron" not posting in here anymore?

Howzit GOP. The Russian economy being what it is, the checks started to bounce and John and Popped Riser are now between jobs.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4628 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Additionally, HUR's cyber specialists managed to steal confidential employee records.

Sleep well meat.

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