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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 6:14 am to Lee B
Posted on 10/14/25 at 6:14 am to Lee B
Financial Times gives some details on the Trump/Z meeting. I believe they had reported earlier that the US has been helping Ukraine with long range refinery strikes for months already.
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 6:54 am to cypher
Russia mulls price caps at gas stations, expert warns of mass 'out-of-stock' signs
October 14, 2025 2:14 pm
Russia's Federal Antimonopoly Service has been asked to impose maximum prices at gas stations as fuel shortages worsen across the country, pro-government media outlet Izvestia reported on Oct. 14.
The proposal, initiated by the Russian National Automobile Union, comes amid a deepening supply crisis exacerbated by Ukraine's escalating drone strikes on Russian oil infrastructure.
The request urges to cap fuel prices using a regional index tied to 2024 averages and inflation levels.
"We consider it appropriate to introduce a price cap at gas stations — a special control mechanism," Anton Shaparin, head of the automobile union, told Izvestia.
The antimonopoly agency confirmed receipt of the proposal and said it would review it according to procedure, noting that it monitors fuel prices at 12,000 gas stations nationwide.
The fuel shortage, which began in late summer, has expanded into several regions as refineries struggle to maintain output amid repeated Ukrainian drone strikes.
Between July 28 and Sept. 22, the number of gas stations selling gasoline in Russia fell by 360, or 2.6%, according to the Russian pro-government media outlet Kommersant.
Restrictions on gasoline sales have since spread to the Tyumen and Sverdlovsk oblasts, following earlier limits in occupied Crimea and Chelyabinsk Oblast.
Oleksandr Talavera, professor of financial economics at the University of Birmingham, told the Kyiv Independent that a price ceiling without subsidies could worsen the shortages.
"With refinery output constrained by Ukrainian strikes, forcing retailers, especially independent ones who buy on the open market, to sell below replacement cost would mass 'out-of-stock' signs," he said.
Ukraine has intensified its campaign against Russian energy facilities in recent months, striking the same refineries multiple times. The Financial Times reported that at least 16 of Russia's 38 oil refineries have been hit by Ukrainian drones since August 2025.
The Kyiv Independent
October 14, 2025 2:14 pm
Russia's Federal Antimonopoly Service has been asked to impose maximum prices at gas stations as fuel shortages worsen across the country, pro-government media outlet Izvestia reported on Oct. 14.
The proposal, initiated by the Russian National Automobile Union, comes amid a deepening supply crisis exacerbated by Ukraine's escalating drone strikes on Russian oil infrastructure.
The request urges to cap fuel prices using a regional index tied to 2024 averages and inflation levels.
"We consider it appropriate to introduce a price cap at gas stations — a special control mechanism," Anton Shaparin, head of the automobile union, told Izvestia.
The antimonopoly agency confirmed receipt of the proposal and said it would review it according to procedure, noting that it monitors fuel prices at 12,000 gas stations nationwide.
The fuel shortage, which began in late summer, has expanded into several regions as refineries struggle to maintain output amid repeated Ukrainian drone strikes.
Between July 28 and Sept. 22, the number of gas stations selling gasoline in Russia fell by 360, or 2.6%, according to the Russian pro-government media outlet Kommersant.
Restrictions on gasoline sales have since spread to the Tyumen and Sverdlovsk oblasts, following earlier limits in occupied Crimea and Chelyabinsk Oblast.
Oleksandr Talavera, professor of financial economics at the University of Birmingham, told the Kyiv Independent that a price ceiling without subsidies could worsen the shortages.
"With refinery output constrained by Ukrainian strikes, forcing retailers, especially independent ones who buy on the open market, to sell below replacement cost would mass 'out-of-stock' signs," he said.
Ukraine has intensified its campaign against Russian energy facilities in recent months, striking the same refineries multiple times. The Financial Times reported that at least 16 of Russia's 38 oil refineries have been hit by Ukrainian drones since August 2025.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 10/14/25 at 7:02 am to cypher
Temporarily occupied Crimea is progressively being cut off from the tentacles of the Russian energy apparatus.
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 8:35 am to cypher
Meanwhile, Putin apologists such as Tucker the Stupid Phucker, Rode Hard Put Up Wet MTG, and others are all left hanging out naked in the wind after their support for Iran, Hamass, etc... (Additionally, MTG has been bitching and moaning about not having illegals to work for her company). All because of the hostage deal in Gaza, ceasefire and negotiations for an actual peace deal.
It's no wonder that this all connects.
It's no wonder that this all connects.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 8:37 am
Posted on 10/14/25 at 8:53 am to CitizenK
Take a long hard look at the strong European/Nato allies that you people are always bragging about or defending. Trump knows what they are and treats them accordingly. Weak losers.
Meloni has more balls than Starmer, Macron and Carney combined.
BTW: Looks like you whining cucks have your safespace back.
Meloni has more balls than Starmer, Macron and Carney combined.
BTW: Looks like you whining cucks have your safespace back.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 8:58 am
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:05 am to AU86
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BTW: Looks like you whining cucks have your safespace back.
Barron should have been banned. The posts here are one thing, but coupled with parroting literally CCP propaganda in that other thread I think he kind of had it coming at that point.
But if posting obvious propaganda, often from the same sources, is the bar for getting banned.... we have at least one poster in here who deserve a look as well.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:07 am to CitizenK
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after their support for Iran, Hamass, etc
Should have known the driver of the clown car would also be an Israel-First absolutist.
Just full of ideas about how to spend American taxpayer dollars, and none of them involve spending it on Americans.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:19 am to VolSquatch
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Barron should have been banned. The posts here are one thing, but coupled with parroting literally CCP propaganda in that other thread I think he kind of had it coming at that point.
I will take your word for it. JB has been guilty of CCP propaganda before. I don't keep up with what is going on in here like I did. I figured he was banned from the whining that goes on here. If not, sorry for the mistake.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:20 am to Chromdome35
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How different from Tom Clancy's 1984 novel The Hunt for Red October! Today, it's more like hunting for the nearest mechanic!".
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:32 am to AU86
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I will take your word for it. JB has been guilty of CCP propaganda before. I don't keep up with what is going on in here like I did. I figured he was banned from the whining that goes on here. If not, sorry for the mistake.
Well in the thread he got banned in there was certainly some whining from certain posters about wanting him banned, including pretending that his posts were going to get the government to take the site down
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:11 am to VolSquatch
To follow up on my post yesterday about why I believe Russia will exit this war with less depth and weaker in a long war but also stronger and more lethal in a short conflict, we see an article from Russia expert Dara Massicot in Foreign Affairs. I found a link to remove the paywall.
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Do read the whole thing, but here's an excerpt:
NATO has a long way to go to learn the same lessons, as we have to learn them 2nd-hand and have less urgency to implement them.
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Do read the whole thing, but here's an excerpt:
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Moscow changed its logistics system to make it more survivable. It introduced new technologies or new ways of using old technology to improve both its precision targeting and its electronic warfare capabilities. These interim adaptations helped Russia stabilize its frontlines and withstand Ukraine’s 2023 counteroffensive.
Since then, Russia’s learning ecosystem has become even more extensive. In Moscow, the Russian military has over 20 commissions devoted to implementing recommendations based on information it receives from the frontlines and from Russian researchers. The military has been busy disseminating lessons learned to the force by summarizing them in bulletins, holding themed workshops, and hosting conferences to troubleshoot problems and share knowledge. Russia’s Southern Military District repeatedly gathers soldiers and commanders from the air force, ground forces, electronic warfare forces, and the defense industry to teach them how to better detect, suppress, and destroy the enemy’s uncrewed aerial vehicles (UAVs), which were essential to Ukraine’s early military success. At a 2023 conference hosted by Russia’s artillery academy, soldiers and experts came together to revise artillery tactics and integrate drones into artillery strikes. In just three years, Russia has made over 450 interim modifications to combat manuals. Military leaders emphasize that these handbooks are likely to be completely overhauled after the war ends.
NATO has a long way to go to learn the same lessons, as we have to learn them 2nd-hand and have less urgency to implement them.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:13 am to cypher
Hospital damaged in Russian strike on Kharkiv, 6 people injured
October 14, 2025 10:47 am
Russia attacked Kharkiv with KAB guided bombs on Oct. 13, damaging a hospital and injuring at least six people, local authorities reported.
According to the Kharkiv Regional Prosecutor's Office, Russia launched an air strike on the Saltivsky district of Kharkiv at around 9:50 p.m. on Oct. 13.
As a result of the strike, a hospital was damaged injuring six patients, Kharkiv Oblast Police reported.
At the time of the attack, more than 100 patients were in the hospital, Oleksiy Dotsenko, director of the facility's surgical department, said in a comment to Suspilne Kharkiv.
"Russia boasts that it does not harm (civilians) but look, are we not (civilians)?" Svitlana Vodolazka, a hospital patient, said in a comment to Suspilne Kharkiv.
"An utterly terrorist, cynical attack on a place where lives are being saved," President Volodymyr Zelensky said after the attack.
Elsewhere in Kharkiv, a dormitory, an enterprise, an educational institution building, a hospital building, a household building, two non-residential buildings, power lines, and 24 vehicles were damaged, Kharkiv Oblast Governor Oleh Syniehubov reported.
Kharkiv Mayor Ihor Terekhov said on Oct. 13 that Russian guided bombs also destroyed power lines in the city, leaving about thirty thousand families without electricity.
Kharkiv has endured constant Russian attacks for over two years since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. The last few months have seen intensifying strikes against densely-populated areas of the city.
The Kyiv Independent
October 14, 2025 10:47 am
Russia attacked Kharkiv with KAB guided bombs on Oct. 13, damaging a hospital and injuring at least six people, local authorities reported.
According to the Kharkiv Regional Prosecutor's Office, Russia launched an air strike on the Saltivsky district of Kharkiv at around 9:50 p.m. on Oct. 13.
As a result of the strike, a hospital was damaged injuring six patients, Kharkiv Oblast Police reported.
At the time of the attack, more than 100 patients were in the hospital, Oleksiy Dotsenko, director of the facility's surgical department, said in a comment to Suspilne Kharkiv.
"Russia boasts that it does not harm (civilians) but look, are we not (civilians)?" Svitlana Vodolazka, a hospital patient, said in a comment to Suspilne Kharkiv.
"An utterly terrorist, cynical attack on a place where lives are being saved," President Volodymyr Zelensky said after the attack.
Elsewhere in Kharkiv, a dormitory, an enterprise, an educational institution building, a hospital building, a household building, two non-residential buildings, power lines, and 24 vehicles were damaged, Kharkiv Oblast Governor Oleh Syniehubov reported.
Kharkiv Mayor Ihor Terekhov said on Oct. 13 that Russian guided bombs also destroyed power lines in the city, leaving about thirty thousand families without electricity.
Kharkiv has endured constant Russian attacks for over two years since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. The last few months have seen intensifying strikes against densely-populated areas of the city.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:23 am to VolSquatch
Did he get banned again?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:23 am to cypher
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Russia mulls price caps at gas stations, expert warns of mass 'out-of-stock' signs
Yeah, that reminds me of the OPEC crisis in my younger days. The black market will thrive though.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:43 am to LARancher1991
Supposedly he wasn't banned the first time, but yes
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:04 am to GOP_Tiger
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With all due respect, I disagree.
Russia is continuing to scale up defense industrial system. There was a recent leak of new T-90 tank production, and it's a huge increase from previous levels. Russia's missile technology has significantly advanced even from the start of the war
Now THIS is what the internet is for. THIS is how you debate on the internet, not some damned troll like JB or Sing.
I get what you're saying but Russia isn't going to be able to keep up with Europe, much less Europe and the US. NATO's GDP before this war started was 10x that of Russia's, and that was before Finland and Sweden joined and doesn't take into account things like the Russians losses and their collapsing Economy. Russia was absolutely dependent on the West for technology, investment, managerial and technical support, and other things that aren't coming back and the Chinese will not be able to make up the difference.
And Russia doesn't have plenty of countries that want to buy their weapons anymore; China simply steals their designs and copies them, India recently signed a defense contract with us (it's one of the few things Trump has done that I'm for) and since the Russians are desperate for tanks and things for their own army there isn't going to be anything to sell - good luck trying to meet the orders for a country not named Russia.
I keep emphasizing the fact that the Russians are using damned donkeys for logistics now, and at an increasing rate, and there's a reason - it's turning Russia into a 19th Century army with 21st century drones. As a result, Putin and his cronies could absolutely start a war that gets millions killed but doesn't take snot for land conquest.
It's not that Russia isn't a threat, it's just that they are becoming a certain type of threat and we need to tailor are defense concerns around this.
Keep this going, this is actually productive.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:17 am to LARancher1991
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Did he get banned again?
Insulting a moderator will do that
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:20 am to Leopold
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Russia isn't going to be able to keep up with Europe, much less Europe and the US. NATO's GDP before this war started was 10x that of Russia's
Well yeah, if that is the metric you're going for then Russia won't meet it. Its also an impossible metric to hit. If a KPI is impossible to hit, its not a good KPI.
That metric is only relevant if you live in a reality where Russia will actively seek out conflict with NATO. I subscribe to the theory that people generally want to see themselves stay alive as long as possible, so I do not think that will happen..
A more realistic metric would be trying to evaluate when they could expand into other non-NATO countries again.
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And Russia doesn't have plenty of countries that want to buy their weapons anymore; China simply steals their designs and copies them, India recently signed a defense contract with us (it's one of the few things Trump has done that I'm for) and since the Russians are desperate for tanks and things for their own army there isn't going to be anything to sell - good luck trying to meet the orders for a country not named Russia.
It would probably be better for global security if Russia could still sell their crap to other countries after this is over. The alternative is that they keep building it for themselves, and eventually they will want to use it.
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I keep emphasizing the fact that the Russians are using damned donkeys for logistics now, and at an increasing rate, and there's a reason - it's turning Russia into a 19th Century army with 21st century drones. As a result, Putin and his cronies could absolutely start a war that gets millions killed but doesn't take snot for land conquest.
There are two sides to this coin. Its to save vehicles ultimately, and yes partially that is because their stockpiles are running low. It also actually makes sense to transport things over rough terrain with something that essentially costs you nothing vs a vehicle that is far less easy to replace. If Ukraine does decide to hit donkeys with drones, they are spending a few thousand dollars to kill something that costs a couple hundred (if they didn't just steal it).
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It's not that Russia isn't a threat, it's just that they are becoming a certain type of threat and we need to tailor are defense concerns around this.
I maintain that allowing Ukraine to hamstring them without actually collapsing their government is the best strategy, and I think that is what both Trump and Biden have attempted to do so far. There is also the nuclear issue that you must account for, so that plays a part as well.
Russia in any kind of iteration similar to its current one will always have engrained flaws that cap their capabilities because they are essentially a criminal enterprise that daylights as a functioning government. The next iteration of Russia might not have those same issues.
This post was edited on 10/14/25 at 11:28 am
Posted on 10/14/25 at 11:22 am to Leopold
Reportedly, if Jack Keane is to be believed, Iran is buying Chinese missile defense systems. Russian built was proven ineffective.
Logistics is still a weak point for Russia. They still use crates instead of pallets. WWII vintage is too advanced for Russia.
Logistics is still a weak point for Russia. They still use crates instead of pallets. WWII vintage is too advanced for Russia.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 12:38 pm to GOP_Tiger
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To follow up on my post yesterday about why I believe Russia will exit this war with less depth and weaker in a long war but also stronger and more lethal in a short conflict
I see that... the question is WHERE will they be able to launch a short conflict that does not turn into a long war?
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