re: Kari Lake Election Contest TRIAL! Viva & Barnes Live Commentary

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I probably wouldn't drive to another location either. I would drop my ballot into the box on site.

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Sure. You wouldn’t drive to another location. You would just stand in a line for 4 hours and then vote on a broken machine. And then put your sabotaged ballot in a box where you hoped someone counted it.

You’re an every year voter - with complete faith in a broken system. Not someone whose already mistrustful of the status quo- who just got sand kicked in their face when they tried to make sure their vote actually counted.

It’s disgusting on every level what happened in Maricopa. I hope That first prick who perjured himself shares a cell with the CEO of Dominion

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What about people who can't afford to drive around the county looking for a voting place? What about people who were already checked in to one voting center and either not knowing or not being told they have to check out of that voting center before they can vote at another? Just because there were other options to cast a vote doesn't mean there couldn't have been intentional fraud or issues caused to suppress an overwhelming GOP election day turnout.

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Chain of custody and signature verification are real issues.

Suppression of vote because voters could not get to a voting booth is not. To your question: "What about people who can't afford to drive around the county looking for a voting place?" There were 223 voting centers in metro-Phoenix an average of under 2 miles apart. Also, there were only (going by memory) only 225 or so people that checked out of a voting center, and only 16 (going by memory) ended up not casting a vote. Remember that if you get to the point where you've checked in, you've already handled the line into the voting center.

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Just because there were other options to cast a vote doesn't mean there couldn't have been intentional fraud or issues caused

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Agree with this. Chain of custody and signature verification are real issues. Whether by incompetence or fraud, or both - these are issues that need resolution.

ETA - how a tabulator reads a 19" ballot while programmed to read a 20" ballot seems like another issue that's going to be resolved. Whether by accident or intent, if it messed up tabulating I don't know how the judge can accept the results of this election.

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You’re an every year voter - with complete faith in a broken system. Not someone whose already mistrustful of the status quo- who just got sand kicked in their face when they tried to make sure their vote actually counted.

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For years now I've heard on this board about how voting should not be so easy (when arguing against mail ballots). If they wanted to make sure their vote counted, they could have put their ballot in the box. Not leave and just decide to not vote. How is that the better option?

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ETA - how a tabulator reads a 19" ballot while programmed to read a 20" ballot seems like another issue that's going to be resolved. Whether by accident or intent, if it messed up tabulating I don't know how the judge can accept the results of this election.

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Unless there is evidence those votes were never counted, it wouldn't change anything. The cyber expert just admitted that the process would be to make a duplicate of that ballot and then tabulate it.

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internal conflict over that last question where he had to finally admit that the ballot would still be counted showed everything I need to know right there.

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no you insufferable dumbass

this was a "when did you stop beating your wife?'" question.

His question wanted him to admit that Kari Lake would still have gotten that vote counted which had been misprinted at the original voting location, but that ASSuMES that the 'duplication' process actually transcribed the correct voter intent declared at the voting site.

This is the planned hiccup - LOTs of ballots cast on ELECTION DAY (overwhelmingly GOP) were filled out on bad ballots that could not be counted.

Those ballots were transported somewhere else to be 'duplicated' = by an employee of the election board? = where the so=called 'duplicate ballot' may OR MAY NOT accurately reflect the original intent of the voter on Election Day.'

PRESTO = another "late surprise" and a totally incompetent and arrogant piece of shite with nothing to be proud of WINS AGAIN.

HOORAY = continued 'border security' and 'fair elections' and "democraTy"

what chaps my arse is that YOU know all that - and you GLORY in the UnFAIRNESS of the new election process.

spare me the = "all legal" bullshite - legal is as officials choose to exercise their "discretion."

And everything that hitler did was also legal under than umbrella.

It’s not the number of votes that were counted, it’s the number of votERs who were deterred that is the issue, counselor.

You’re getting misdirected, and you’re smarter than that

It is weird that the mics are picking up the lawyers whispering to each other.

It’s the truth of the words spoken not whether the words spoken are true.

Plus - Statement against interest

But can’t be authenticated.
Like this fricking election

ETA - If I’m the judge I dont let it i

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What's going on here. This doesn't look good.

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They want to introduce hearsay evidence (a witness named Heather testifying about something that a lady named Betty said on a voicemail). They aren’t trying to admit the voicemail, but to introduce testimony about the voicemail

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you’re smarter than that

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Wednesday, this might be one of the few times I disagree with you…