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re: Kamala says she supports busing as a policy in 2019

Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:24 am to
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:24 am to
Democrats and liberals will love the policy until their kid has to spend 45 plus minutes on a bus to go to school 20 miles away.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:25 am to
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I support busing




Someone needs to tell her that even black people figured out busing was fricked up.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:28 am to
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not because the schools are actually that good. I hope people realize that


Truth but written by
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chalmetteowl

Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:42 am to
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Actually it(busing) did work. I'm guessing it works better in some areas than other. 
Baton Rouge, along with many other places, are living proof that busing is more likely to be an absolute failure than successful.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1588 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:48 am to
Is it normal for black kids to have below average parental upbringing? What % of blacks have average and up?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:49 am to
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Actually it did work
Define "work" as you used it here.

Because it was a fricking train wreck that actually harmed the people it claimed to hope to help MOST
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:51 am to
65% of African American children are in single parent homes. Around 25% of white kids are.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1588 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:17 am to
I think intact families are about the only stat that would come close to addressing this, so I get why you would post this. But obviously just because your mom (probably) in this case didn't remarry does not mean she would lower her expectations of how a child should do in school. She probably never had them.
On a side note, I saw a stat that says black kids are better off in a single household under fathers than even with a mom and dad. Only like 1% better, but damn!
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1588 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:19 am to
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Define "work"

Lower the high and raise the floor, or spreading the IQ wealth around the state to make it look like racial equality is even a thing.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22583 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:20 am to
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65% of African American children are in single parent homes. Around 25% of white kids are.


This should be a question for the self styled “black candidate” Kamala. Cite these stats and ask her what policies she proposes that will address this issue?
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:23 am to
I will say our school systems need drastic change. They actually are segregated...as are houses. Everywhere I have lived has a "black" side of town. What we really need to do is change how schools are funded. Standardized testing and property tax is not a good way to do it. The rich basically get better quality school. Shouldn't be that way for public schools. Each school should get an amount per student. Should be that simple. Not sure why it's still done this way. May be the only thing I agree with Democrats on.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27775 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:34 am to
what is crazier is that the very people who hate busing and are most negatively impacted by it will support her for no other reason except that she is black...and not even from American stock
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22583 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:36 am to
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Each school should get an amount per student.


In many places the poor performing schools have a higher per student spending. This isn’t a money issue. The “rich” have better schools and are rich for a reason and it isn’t something govt can fix.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:42 am to
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This election really about to become a referendum on busing?


It is really unbelievable.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:42 am to
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Everywhere I have lived has a "black" side of town. What we really need to do is change how schools are funded. Standardized testing and property tax is not a good way to do it. The rich basically get better quality school.
If the school is in the same district, even if it's the black school in the district, it's funded from the same pot based upon the same funding profiles. So, in most cases, you are incorrect.

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Each school should get an amount per student. Should be that simple.
That's actually not that simple. If your approach were taken, then for the most part, "bad" schools would get worse.

Basically, your premise is based upon a false sense of the information out there.

Washington DC for example spends almost double the national average per pupil.

Some of the best school districts in the country spend some of the least per pupil.

Good students are cheaper to manage and teach.
Posted by bricksandstones
Member since Nov 2015
1597 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:44 am to
Somebody should point out the increased carbon footprint and stress on the climate that would result from busing. Those buses can't run on warm fuzzies alone, they would be making the evil oil and gas industry even richer.
Posted by bowlbound
Member since Oct 2017
629 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:08 am to
In Los Angeles, there has been a proliferation of private schools. A big reason is that no one in the neighborhood of the local school wants their kids attending school with kids from out of the area. Those schools then turn into 90% out of neighborhood kids who don't care about the neighborhood. they litter, vandalize and shop lift. Brutal.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10226 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:10 am to
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@KamalaHarris: “I support busing.


Tell her to come to EBR and see what great things happened here as a result of busing.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1588 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:32 am to
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except that she is black...and not even from American stock

worked for Obama
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71536 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:22 pm to
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I will say our school systems need drastic change. They actually are segregated...as are houses. Everywhere I have lived has a "black" side of town. What we really need to do is change how schools are funded. Standardized testing and property tax is not a good way to do it. The rich basically get better quality school. Shouldn't be that way for public schools. Each school should get an amount per student. Should be that simple. Not sure why it's still done this way. May be the only thing I agree with Democrats on.


You need to research how money is allocated to schools.
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