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re: Kamala Harris “Stopping abortion after 20 weeks is immoral”
Posted on 1/28/18 at 8:48 am to Antonio Moss
Posted on 1/28/18 at 8:48 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
Actual data says you are wrong
Your 30 year old study seems to confirm what he is saying. 75% were in the clinic before 16 weeks.
And Washington Times in NOT WaPo.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 8:50 am
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 8:49 am to mmcgrath
Sticking up for K Harris
Shocking
Shocking
Posted on 1/28/18 at 8:50 am to Roger Klarvin
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It's something that not only are the majority of Americans and healthcare workers in partial or complete opposition to, but given the demographics where abortion is most prevalent it actually DECREASES the volume of future voters.
Such is the problem with being a "big tent," populist party. The DNC has to court ever extremist group around in order to create a coalation capable of winning a national election. Here, they have to give in to the whims of anti-intellectual, third-wave feminists despite the fact that this harms another demographic they court.
Populism is a horrible evil, but incredibly effective, method of politics.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 8:52 am to mmcgrath
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Your 30 year old study seems to confirm what he is saying. 75% were in the clinic before 16 weeks.
Your argument was that of those aborting after 20 weeks, the vast majority were because of fetal malformation or related to the health of the mother. Both studies cited indicate that your position is unfounded.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 8:53 am to OMLandshark
This might seem radical now but I think her opinion about late term abortions is going to be picked up by more and more Democrats. They always try to convince others that their terrible positions are good by making it seem like everyone agrees with them.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:13 am to Antonio Moss
quote:Given that I read the study and it cites fetal health as a concern in 21% of abortions after 13 weeks, your numbers from the Washington Times are wrong. And the total samples were intentionally oversampled for abortions after 16 weeks, so I take back the 75% number. Only about 1% of abortions are past 20 weeks.
Your argument was that of those aborting after 20 weeks, the vast majority were because of fetal malformation or related to the health of the mother. Both studies cited indicate that your position is unfounded.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:20 am to mmcgrath
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Given that I read the study and it cites fetal health as a concern in 21% of abortions after 13 weeks, your numbers from the Washington Times are wrong. And the total samples were intentionally oversampled for abortions after 16 weeks, so I take back the 75% number. Only about 1% of abortions are past 20 weeks
Your crawfishing would be more impressive if you were better at analyzing statistics.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:26 am to mmcgrath
You aren't very smart, are you?
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:29 am to OMLandshark
She’s right, though.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:29 am to NIH
quote:
You aren't very smart, are you?
No not at all
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:31 am to mmcgrath
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Your 30 year old study seems to confirm what he is saying. 75% were in the clinic before 16 weeks.
Well vermin, how many 20 week abortions strictly due to convenience are ok a year?
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:32 am to mmcgrath
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your numbers from the Washington Times are wrong.
The numbers were from the Alan Guttmacher Institute.
The numbers said two percent (2%) of EGA>16wk abortions were related to fetal abnormalities. I'll add that the percent of late term abortions performed to save the life of the mother would be exactly ZERO if it was included in the stat. Late term abortions to "save the life of the mother" never happen. An abortion clinic is not equipped to care for someone that sick.
Those facts are juxtaposed with the earlier claim that "Almost all late term abortions are for fetal abnormalities or the life of the mother."
So let's reassess.
Do you still intend to defend the claim that "Almost all late term abortions are for fetal abnormalities or the life of the mother"?
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 9:46 am
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:35 am to Antonio Moss
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Populism is a horrible evil, but incredibly effective, method of politics.
It's unsustainable however
Eventually, populism leads to the alienation of a group or groups in its attempts appease others. People will only vote for a given party in spite of this for so long.
How long will the black demographic walk in lock step with the party that actively opposes their deep cultural religious beliefs and advocates for policies and activities that act to decrease their future social and political impact? AAs are the most religious demographic in America (well over 90%) and the overwhelming majority oppose abortion at least in theory. No demographic has more cultural opposition to homosexuality than the black community traditionally.
Eventually, a large portion of them are going to tell the democrats to get fricked.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:04 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
Such is the problem with being a "big tent," populist party. The DNC has to court ever extremist group around in order to create a coalation capable of winning a national election. Here, they have to give in to the whims of anti-intellectual, third-wave feminists despite the fact that this harms another demographic they court
It’s very telling, Prog/Dims are an amalgamation of advocacy groups that have very little power individually but combined have amassed great power in order to push their sick twisted ideology on America.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:06 am to Bass Tiger
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Prog/Dims are an amalgamation of advocacy groups that have very little power individually but combined have amassed great power
And, honestly, they aren't nearly as effective as groups like the PRI in Mexico.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:12 am to mahdragonz
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f your wife goes for a 20 week check up and the doctor said the baby has a zero chance at survival and has organs growing outside of its body, you think the government should be the one that tells you what to do?
I know if several people who had doctors tell them their babies would be born with severe retardation and/or physical deformities and in ALL cases the babies were born completely fine. I’m too lazy to look up the stat but isn’t the second leading cause of death for healthy adults medical mistakes? Just sayin.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:21 am to mahdragonz
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Almost all late term abortions are for fetal abnormalities or the life of the mother.
Look, I have no problem with the exceptions that you cite but by your own words, "almost all", admits that there are cases of murder of healthy babies happening due to normalization of abortion. And I would add that there is no doubt in my mind that such abnormalities or risk to the mother could be determined prior to 20 weeks.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:26 am to GurleyGirl
quote:His "own words" were no where close to true. They were baseless.
but by your own words, "almost all"
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:08 pm to GurleyGirl
A posted survey showed that 2% of late term abortions were due to fetal abnormalities.
That means "almost all" were for convenience
That means "almost all" were for convenience
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
It's unsustainable however
Eventually, populism leads to the alienation of a group or groups in its attempts appease others. People will only vote for a given party in spite of this for so long.
How long will the black demographic walk in lock step with the party that actively opposes their deep cultural religious beliefs and advocates for policies and activities that act to decrease their future social and political impact? AAs are the most religious demographic in America (well over 90%) and the overwhelming majority oppose abortion at least in theory. No demographic has more cultural opposition to homosexuality than the black community traditionally.
Eventually, a large portion of them are going to tell the democrats to get fricked
Plus you have the fringe of the party supporting euthanasia. What happens when black patients are disproportionately euthanized?
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