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re: Just once it would be refreshing for a Republican governor to oppose ‘Price Gouging Laws’

Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:53 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:53 am to
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f you cap the price of, say gasoline, you will have less gasoline in the affected area. But what is desperately needed is MORE gasoline. Just let the price go up. This will result in supply increasing.
NEGATIVE!
Supply in the instance of a disaster is constrained by the disaster, not by pricing. Nor does increased pricing magically increase supply to normalize supply-demand in those circumstances. That is the flaw in your reasoning.

The only thing accomplished is supply-side profiteering at the expense of an already damaged consumer-base. That is it.
Posted by LSUGrad2024
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2023
639 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:57 am to
Here is why you are wrong.

Price gougers are worse than just raising the prices of their own stock.

The Pajeets, Punjabis, and Arabs go to HEB/Walmart etc and buy up all the milk and other supplies they can, then sell it in their shops at 2x/3x the price.

And as we have been finding out all across the nation like in Minnesota, and California, Maine, and New York....these people use food stamps that have been issued to them or their family members, to stock up their "convenience stores"

Frick them. They can all go to Hell. Fracking immigrants coming into my country, and trying to screw over Heritage Americans.

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This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 10:00 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13529 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 10:07 am to
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.these people use food stamps that have been issued to them or their family members, to stock up their "convenience stores"


That's an argument against immigration and another, separate argument against WIC.

quote:

The Pajeets, Punjabis, and Arabs go to HEB/Walmart etc and buy up all the milk and other supplies they can, then sell it in their shops at 2x/3x the price.


And if the profit margin is there, other people will arrive with those same things to sell to compete with them.

Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2980 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 10:08 am to
Your post implies that you think people have a right to purchase products at a reduced price because…it takes a village? They want it? Some reason.

It appears to me that you want the government to step in and bail out those that weren’t prepared or want to be comfortable.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2980 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 10:10 am to
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The Pajeets, Punjabis, and Arabs go to HEB/Walmart etc and buy up all the milk and other supplies they can, then sell it in their shops at 2x/3x the price.


I want to eliminate WIC & EBT altogether. I would do it tomorrow.

Your posts illustrates the effects of government interfering in market forces.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 10:24 am
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2980 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 10:24 am to
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Price gouging happens BEFORE supply can increase. The supply increase always happens and prices come back down.

It’s the pack of water already in the store that costs $4 yesterday and $24 today, by the time the next shipment arrives it will be down to $4 again.


Exactly.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 10:27 am to
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Exactly


So the costs of bringing new supply to the area won’t matter.

Glad to see you admit you were wrong
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70529 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 11:20 am to
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And what risk is a gas station owner taking when he is sitting on 7000 gallons of gasoline and decides to double the price in a natural disaster?


The gas station sets a higher price so he has higher margins. The reason being that he will offer more money for a fuel truck to risk being damaged or delayed by storm impacted roads to resupply his station vs selling out all of his initial supply and then not getting another truck until conditions improve.

The gas doesn’t magically appear in the buried tanks at the station. Gas has to be trucked in. During dangerous conditions, trucks go where the money is or where the danger isn’t. If the truck gets the same price driving across potentially flooded streets filled with debris to resupply a station lacking electricity as it does supplying literally any other gas station. It’s not going to risk damage to the truck or the life of the driver to make that delivery. However, if the truck driver sees an opportunity to make double the usual amount because a station is offering double to brave the conditions (and can afford to do so because they’re charging double to the customer), more truck drivers will be willing to take the risk and make the trip to resupply.

Higher prices mean both that the “hoarded” supplies won’t run out so fast, and that disruptions in supply will be ended sooner because of the additional profit incentive to sell goods at inflated prices in a disaster zone.

If I have a truck and can can buy 8 generators for $2k/piece in Kentucky and sell them for $4k/piece in Florida after a hurricane knocked out power for 10 million customers, I’ll make that trip to turn a quick buck.

However, if I can only charge the same $2k in storm ravaged Florida that I can buy them for in Kentucky, why risk my truck or waste my time?
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2980 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 11:25 am to
No, when the supply increases the price comes down.

The cost to deliver comes down when more trucks go to an area over time
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9144 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 11:28 am to
The appearance you’ve constructed in your head is wrong.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139007 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:03 pm to
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The gas station sets a higher price so he has higher margins. The reason being that he will offer more money for a fuel truck to risk being damaged or delayed by storm impacted roads to resupply his station

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41071 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:05 pm to
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The cost to deliver comes down when more trucks go to an area over time


Absolutely wrong

If there is a temporary increase in shipping cost, it comes down when the impediment is removed

More trucks is not the impediment

The disaster is the impediment

The reality is we don’t have truly free enterprise, because we have regulation

We have regulation because there are bad actors. Truly free enterprise requires everyone having same access to info, which we dont have, and everyone following the same rules, which we don’t have.

It’s the same reason free trade doesn’t work, if all countries had same rules and no political interference it would work but that’s never going to be the case,
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4229 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:07 pm to
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kingbob
you wrote out this whole long post without ever even digesting the theme of my post.

Also, gas stations without power don’t sell gas.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70529 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:20 pm to
Some find a way to when they can set up generators to run the pumps and sell for 4X what they would otherwise make.

Price gauging laws affect every good, not just gasoline. I literally included another example with generators in the same post, but food, beer, ice, diapers, coffee, the supply of every sort of good stuff gets throttled during an emergency. And price gauging puts an added incentive to relieve that bottleneck as soon as possible.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3698 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:29 pm to
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Price gauging is good, actually, because the incentive for profit causes suppliers to take risks to alleviate shortages during supply interruptions rather than simply wait out the dangerous situation.


These small govt conservatives would rather entirely rely on generosity / charity and govt.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20075 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:35 pm to
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The market is the market.

This is the justification to frick people over. The market isn't the market when powerful entities rig the scale.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
5044 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:03 pm to
No, I understand it very well.

And I'm 100% certain that anti price gouging laws do absolutely nothing to help people in need. In fact, it makes things worse.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139007 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:48 pm to
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I'm 100% certain that anti price gouging laws do absolutely nothing to help people in need.
I'm 100% certain you are misinformed.
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