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re: Just four honest questions for all you "The election was stolen" people. Truly, I ask this

Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:32 pm to
The fear is so amazing

The narrative is shifting
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:33 pm to
That is not four questions, that is one question with four answers, all of them dumb.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:34 pm to
I am certain that the whole stolen election thing is part of the continuous string of conspiracy theories we've gotten from the right wing Republicans.

Joe Biden was elected honestly and fairly because the American people know a real statesman when they see one. They see a man who is more interested in solving the world's problems (like Global Warming) than one who is only interested in saying mean things on twitter.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:35 pm to
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4. Three AM mysterious and statistically impossible vote dump happened in multiple states.


And not just random states. Very specific ones.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:36 pm to
1. Ruby Freeman.

2.



Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:37 pm to
This campaign produced the most votes in US history. It surpassed Barack Obama by sixteen million.

Get the frick out of here.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44317 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:38 pm to
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what then happens if it's proven there was indeed enough fraud that Trump should have won the election


Nice deflection, but you didn’t answer the question. He didn’t ask if “Trump May have won, or even probably won”, he said
proven there was indeed enough fraud that Trump should have won the election.”

Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130928 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:38 pm to
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How does someone with a functioning brain not come to the conclusion that Democrats cheated on a massive scale? You're ignoring all evidence.

Lay out the evidence then.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
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Member since Nov 2007
15012 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:39 pm to
ALL THE SWING STATES QUIT COUNTING AT THE SAME TIME.

That has never happened in the history of our Country.. EVER.

A straight Biden up shoot of votes came in in EVERY one of those States in the middle of the night.

It was 100% fraudulently STOLEN, it will come OUT, and you guys are frickED....not only with POTUS, but down ballot as well.

Pepare thy anus.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 3:40 pm
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:39 pm to
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Truly, I ask this honestly.


Then I'll take you at your word.

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1. You actually think fraud happened? Double voting and stuff like that.


Yes, I think this happened.

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2. You aren't ready to go so far as to say unequivocally that it was "stolen" but that, for example, some last minute changes in rules made it easier to do fraud IF someone had wanted to. But you are not ready to say that it did, at least not yet. It would have just been too easy in your opinion.


I've never been in the completely stolen camp, though I think it's entirely possible. I've been more concerned with the abject failure of our press corps in the country which had abdicated it's role as an impartial news source in favor of being the propaganda wing of the Democrat Party. I think this was such a HUGE issue that it could have potentially flipped the election.

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3. You don't have any evidence. You don't have any real issue with those rule changes, after all COVID was going on, maybe you even sympathise. No, your real issue is that you just don't get how on earth people could be SO stupid as to vote for a Democrat and all those weird BLM and Defund the Cops and Green Deal policies instead of for the imperfect but still much better Trump. You simply thin, if Trump lost it HAD to have been through mendacity. America just can't be that stupid to vote for Biden and his communist friends, at least that's what you think.


No, I have huge issues with the rule changes because there was never any need for them. Much like the grousing about having to have an ID to vote, watching how Democrats fight that is telling. Rather than advocating for universal IDs, which would actually be a benefit to the BIPOC communities they are always suggesting they care about, instead they argue in favor of NOT having an ID. Why? It's virtually impossible to function in society without an ID (which is why nearly everyone has them) so if there really is an issue with your voting base not having this vital piece to function, why not work on that instead of suggesting expecting voters to prove they are who they are is racist? Because the goal is not to empower minority communities, it's to get elected...and it's easier to cheat when you don't have to show an ID. Same goes for nearly every rules change offered up in 2020.

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4. Or do you deep down think it's BS but because this is all a game anyway, you are just rooting for your "side/team" and screaming at the referees for a close call even when you know the call was right. You just want to yell and scream and maybe get the call your way the next time like in 2024 or something. Plus it helps with fundraising. "Playing the refs" so to speak.


No...not this. In fact, I was the guy that would reluctantly admit when a ref got a call right even if it went against my team. I genuinely believe that there are multiple places in which the past election was less than honest. Be it straight up election fraud from small to grand, to the press acting in a coordinated effort to remove Trump (something they admitted to in that Time Mag article months ago) to rules changes that either required cheating to implement and were designed to cheat once in place or bend the rules already there.
Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:40 pm to
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Point being, no-one will ever be satisfied so I would let this drop and try to win in 2022 on the border and leftist extremist policies, Critical Race Theory, BLM and so forth.



You mean just like the left dropped the 2016 election? Hell, they went all the way to February 2020 still fighting the 2016 election. Talk about no evidence. There was nothing and they impeached Trump almost 4 years later.
Posted by Barn_Owl
Dallas
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:40 pm to
Eurocat.

Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:40 pm to
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Lay out the evidence then.
”COVID coming from a lab is a racist conspiracy.”

Get the frick out of here.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

1. You actually think fraud happened? Double voting and stuff like that.

Yes.


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2. You aren't ready to go so far as to say unequivocally that it was "stolen" but that, for example, some last minute changes in rules made it easier to do fraud IF someone had wanted to. But you are not ready to say that it did, at least not yet. It would have just been too easy in your opinion.

Yes, bold part only. No to rest.


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3. You don't have any evidence. You don't have any real issue with those rule changes, after all COVID was going on, maybe you even sympathise. No, your real issue is that you just don't get how on earth people could be SO stupid as to vote for a Democrat and all those weird BLM and Defund the Cops and Green Deal policies instead of for the imperfect but still much better Trump. You simply thin, if Trump lost it HAD to have been through mendacity. America just can't be that stupid to vote for Biden and his communist friends, at least that's what you think.

Yes, bold part only. No to rest.


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4. Or do you deep down think it's BS but because this is all a game anyway, you are just rooting for your "side/team" and screaming at the referees for a close call even when you know the call was right. You just want to yell and scream and maybe get the call your way the next time like in 2024 or something. Plus it helps with fundraising. "Playing the refs" so to speak.

Nah.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5876 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:41 pm to
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honestly.

Are you all upset because.

1. You actually think fraud happened? Double voting and stuff like that.

2. You aren't ready to go so far as to say unequivocally that it was "stolen" but that, for example, some last minute changes in rules made it easier to do fraud IF someone had wanted to. But you are not ready to say that it did, at least not yet. It would have just been too easy in your opinion.

3. You don't have any evidence. You don't have any real issue with those rule changes, after all COVID was going on, maybe you even sympathise. No, your real issue is that you just don't get how on earth people could be SO stupid as to vote for a Democrat and all those weird BLM and Defund the Cops and Green Deal policies instead of for the imperfect but still much better Trump. You simply thin, if Trump lost it HAD to have been through mendacity. America just can't be that stupid to vote for Biden and his communist friends, at least that's what you think.

4. Or do you deep down think it's BS but because this is all a game anyway, you are just rooting for your "side/team" and screaming at the referees for a close call even when you know the call was right. You just want to yell and scream and maybe get the call your way the next time like in 2024 or something. Plus it helps with fundraising. "Playing the refs" so to speak.

Please don't say "all of the above", I am curious what for most people is the number one reason they doubt the win if they do indeed doubt the win.

Thanks!



I can't give a ONE reason why I think this election was stolen, so just to be sure, I would like to look into it. Is that crazy? I don't think so
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:41 pm to
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That's a very good question.

Let's start with what I just wrote above.


Nah... You are copping out.


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1. Many audits are being handled poorly.


And there we have it. Nothing will ever be presented to you that you will accept because you are ok with it.

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And if more audits are done and STILL there isn't good proof of fraud, it won't stop the GOP from STILL claiming fraud, just saying "oh well, we tried to catch them, we'll be more alert next time" or something like that.


Again. It's already proven. You just don't give 2 sheets...
Posted by MsState of mind
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Member since Aug 2013
2740 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:42 pm to
I read one question on that and a bunch of bullshite.


Yes it was stolen and yea there is evidence
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17244 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:42 pm to
Well maybe we should pass some kind of "Safe Voting" act that would reduce a lot of hanky panky I have heard about, playing games with the results, ballots from foreign countries.

Oh wait, that GOP voted against that. This was in 2019 folks, BEFORE the election everyone is upset about.

Also since the election if I have read a lot about how rules need to be standardized between states. But before it conservatives didn't want that.

LINK
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
4542 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:44 pm to
You about to have the real results shoved up your arse
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77768 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:44 pm to
True conservatives will ALWAYS err toward election security measures.

Biometrics. Voter ID. Blockchain.

Yes to all.

We likely have too many people voting as it is.
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