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re: Just four honest questions for all you "The election was stolen" people. Truly, I ask this

Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by markinkaty
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:18 pm to
Why don't you go meet Barry and Rahm at the bathhouse and discuss the prosperity created by critical theory?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49545 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:18 pm to
Don't know why I am adding to your troll successes but

It was a fraud - simple and logical and nothing else comes close to explaining how it could have been 'legitimate,'
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:22 pm to
Some of point 1, some of point 2. Depending on the location.

I think there was a quite a bit of 1 in AZ, MI, PA and GA. I think the independent audits of the ballots and machines we're seeing in AZ and NH are going to force a lot of people to re-think their "conspiracy theory bullshite" stance much as they are now starting to re-think their Wuhan lab stances on COVID.

If there are more audits of pristine devices and forensic audits of mailed ballots (for purposes of determining duplication, valid voters, etc), I think we'll see even more fraud.

The big question then is (and this is to you, Eurocat): what then happens if it's proven there was indeed enough fraud that Trump should have won the election?

That's not a gotcha or anything, it's a serious question because it's not like it's territory we've ever been in before. Being on the other side of the aisle I'm interested in your take on how you think it should be handled, if it were to come to pass.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:23 pm to
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If there was no fraud, why fight audits so much?



That's like saying a person who is accused of something should have no problem going to trial since the truth will come out then. I mean, your innocent, it's not like innocent people are ever found guilty of crimes they didn't commit.

The thing is I don't think any audit result that is against their side will satisfy either side now. It's pointless. I would focus on the midterms and making hay of inflation right now, "Eliminate the Cops", the border crisis, general left wing rhetoric and so on. That will win the GOP the House and Senate and focusing on some election theft theories that will never be proven or disproven.
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
24495 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:23 pm to
No one could possibly be this f*cking stupid.

Serious question – do you honestly believe that this dementia riddled, beyond f*cking corrupt, plagiarizing groping rapist who literally slept in his basement for the last three months of the election got 81 million votes? Keep in mind that the black messiah of the Democrat party only got 64 million votes. Please tell us you understand that Raping Joe did not get 81 million votes, or anything close to that
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:25 pm to
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Are you all upset because.



Upset is hardly the word I would use.


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1. You actually think fraud happened? Double voting and stuff like that.



It's not a matter of thinking. It's now been proven. Just this week, the NH audit stated this for a "FACT":

60% of ballots with machine-made or handmade folds were improperly counted by scanning machines.

Last week a Judge in Ga ordered the unsealing of ballots in Fulton county because of the 21% discrepancies. TWENTY ONE PERCENT.


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2. You aren't ready to go so far as to say unequivocally that it was "stolen" but that, for example, some last minute changes in rules made it easier to do fraud IF someone had wanted to. But you are not ready to say that it did, at least not yet. It would have just been too easy in your opinion.


In some case it was 100% planned. Court case prove it.


Now your turn:

Do you ignore the facts because:

1- I don't care about how, just that my guy won.

2- Because my guy won.. I'm ok with not looking at the facts.

3- I'm pro doing away with the constitution because it suits me.
Posted by Baylor Kyle
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Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Serious question – do you honestly believe that this dementia riddled, beyond f*cking corrupt, plagiarizing groping rapist who literally slept in his basement for the last three months of the election got 81 million votes? Keep in mind that the black messiah of the Democrat party only got 64 million votes. Please tell us you understand that Raping Joe did not get 81 million votes, or anything close to that



I does not seem logical - especially in a year where most Democrats are scared to go outside - that this guy would get more votes than anyone in history. Doesn't really pass the smell test.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28161 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:25 pm to
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1. You actually think fraud happened? Double voting and stuff like that.


This always happens. To what extent, we don't know, but it always does. This is not where I'm at, believing that for every one red vote a blue voter did it twice, that's silly, and won't work on a national level.

I'm in the boat of, the rules were changed last minute under the guise of "nana will die if she has to go to the polls". The rules change opened the door for people who were actually ready to walk through.

It's easy and recent history to look back at Acorn during the Obama elections. Thet were busted in voter registration attempting to get bogus people registered.



Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
25589 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:26 pm to
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That's like saying a person who is accused of something should have no problem going to trial since the truth will come out then. I mean, your innocent, it's not like innocent people are ever found guilty of crimes they didn't commit.


This is an asinine comparison. The hiding was done on election day and the days after with the first counts. Did you miss the part where they stopped counting in Georgia because of a fictional water pipe burst, then when all of the poll watchers left, they counted and AMAZINGLY found a bunch of Biden votes. Or how about Michigan where they put up plywood during the first counts and blocked the view of all poll watchers?

Are you ok? Do you need to go see a neurologist for cognitive dysfunction?
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17301 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:26 pm to
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You actually think fraud happened? Double voting and stuff like that.


I think the functional equivalent of Stacy Abrams and the guy from the DNC from Brooklyn who was in charge of Wisconsin existed in every swing state and reviewed the ways that mail in ballots could be manipulated and lobbied politically friendly local officials to remove procedural safeguards like signature verification.

I think these shady characters literally made fake ballots and harvested ballots. They voted the harvested ballots based on estimated turnouts and other statistical projections of how many they needed bc those could be matched to real people.

Then they did shite like make up ballots for 16 year olds from drivers license records bc the 16 year olds and dead people don’t know that someone else is voting for them.

I think they monitored the machines remotely and knew they didn’t have enough votes and so they all stopped counting at the same time to either manufacture more ballots or go get them out of where ever they were warehousing their fake ones.

I think that If any remote manipulation of the machines were performed to change vote counts it was done primarily in red areas - so that Trump even may have carried them but his margin of victory was reduced.

The criminals also lied to people like Facebook and Rachel Maddow the same way leftists always rationalize their misdeeds. It was for the greater good. They were trying to cure voter suppression, Muh Covid, most secure election ever, and Orange Man Bad. Rachel Maddow and Facebook believe the lies of the Stacey Abramses bc they wanted to and never looked into shite. And they did their part by branding and defaming anyone who asked questions as conspiracy theorists. Even fricking major law firms got involved in the act.

The election was stolen and this is the most massive large scale civil rights violation since Jim Crow laws and I will not fricking rest until every detail is exposed.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:27 pm to
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t was absolutely stolen through fraudulent votes in my opinion.

No rational person would argue with investigating the election and the democrats have fought tooth and nail to prevent someone looking into the election. When you hire attorneys to prevent an investigation you are guilty.




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Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22476 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:27 pm to
I am most upset about concern troll figs, but that's just me.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
11409 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:27 pm to
The election for the most part was illegal. Many of the voting laws in certain states were changed without the proper authority. The SOS changed the laws without going to the state branches needed to vote on those changed laws. That in fact makes those votes illegal.
Dominion also created fraud by having an illegal system in place while the election was ongoing. Again, that’s fraud. No matter what way you look at it, from democrat or republican, it’s illegal. Trump was ahead before all the fraud really began not counting what I just explained.
Posted by Armymann50
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:29 pm to
I'm upset that you're so upset that she is upset.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
82423 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:29 pm to

Back in November I was a number 2.

With the information coming out, I've shifted to number 1.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17244 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

The big question then is (and this is to you, Eurocat): what then happens if it's proven there was indeed enough fraud that Trump should have won the election?

That's not a gotcha or anything, it's a serious question because it's not like it's territory we've ever been in before. Being on the other side of the aisle I'm interested in your take on how you think it should be handled, if it were to come to pass.



That's a very good question.

Let's start with what I just wrote above.

1. Many audits are being handled poorly. You seem like a decent guy willing to hear out the other side, so I would ask you read or at least skin this article (sorry if you have already seen it).

This was from the Post but I found it here where it is not behind a paywall. How can audit be trusted if it is done like this?

LINK

2. No matter what happens, neither side will be happy. If the GOP says "see, evidence of malfeasance!", the Dems will say, bs, cmon, that was a bs audit done by your guys for your benefit (kinda like in court where the defense team hires its own "expert witnesses" to disprove eveything the state witnesses, pathologists, arson inspectors, etc, have testified about.

And if more audits are done and STILL there isn't good proof of fraud, it won't stop the GOP from STILL claiming fraud, just saying "oh well, we tried to catch them, we'll be more alert next time" or something like that.

Point being, no-one will ever be satisfied so I would let this drop and try to win in 2022 on the border and leftist extremist policies, Critical Race Theory, BLM and so forth.

Thanks for the question!
Posted by BrookhavenBengal
Brookhaven, MS
Member since Oct 2007
3606 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:31 pm to
Trump won. By a lot.

#1, bigly.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:31 pm to
No. Continuing to expose the fraud AND focusing on the Biden effects that you mentioned is needed to win the mid terms...if that is even possible against the fraud machine.
Posted by CMBears1259
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
5045 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:31 pm to
1. It did.
2. It was.
3. I have issue with all the rules changes going back to early voting. Get back to same day, in-person voting and legit reason absentee voting. Let's see how things turn out then. Mail-in is inexcusable. Especially unsolicited requests for ballots.
4. It's not a game and there's nothing fun about it that doesn't have serious consequences.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21069 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Just four honest questions for all you


Thanks for the heads up that this is some disingenuous horse shite.
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