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re: Jury Deliberation Day 2: Rekieta Law live now

Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:27 pm to
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The rest of the jury can remove the foreman moniker from that person on a vote, assign a new foreman, and pass notes to the judge.


Roger that.

Can we please keep the Arbery stuff out of this thread please?
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:27 pm to
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If they convict, it's been a masterful jury intimidation coup for the Left.
Mine was worded to include bought jurors and activists.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:28 pm to
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Y’all don’t think he was trying to prove his main provocation argument?



Yeah, but that's a piss poor way to go about it. Arguably, it is assault, particularly if other measures aren't taken - chamber plug, weapon deemed non-firing, etc.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:29 pm to
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I'm thinking it has to be the Rosenbaum death that is the sticking point. The other 2 are as clear as day self defense.

the Rosenbaum death is the key charge here

if Kyle's guilty in the death of Rosenbaum... it opens the door on convictions of the others... b/c then it's 'the mob was trying to stop a murderer"

if Kyle's not guilty in the death of Rosenbaum... then it's almost an automatic not guilty on the others
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:29 pm to
It is all about the provocation issue.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:29 pm to
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I'm thinking it has to be the Rosenbaum death that is the sticking point. The other 2 are as clear as day self defense.
Ehh

If the jury thinks he murdered Rosenbaum I doubt he’s safe on the other charges

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if Kyle's not guilty in the death of Rosenbaum... then it's almost an automatic not guilty on the others
It might be a concern troll, but I do not see him getting not guilty verdicts on every charge.

IMO, at the very least I expect him to be found guilty on one of the lessor charges. And those carry a frick ton of prison time.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:31 pm to
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Meaning tue defense was not able to ever view the original 1080p unedited/I enhanced version. Only the enhanced 844p version and an unenhanced 212p version.


If it's out of focus, it's hocus pocus!
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:32 pm to
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It is all about the provocation issue.

yes... and why the defense needed to hammer home the point that Kyle was trying to run away the entire time
Posted by RolltidePA
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:32 pm to
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I'm thinking it has to be the Rosenbaum death that is the sticking point. The other 2 are as clear as day self defense.



If that's the case and they are nitpicking his actions with Rosenbaum, then things have to be looking pretty grim for the defense.

It'll be a sad day if these shitty, unethical prosecutors bag a win here.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:33 pm to
I posted this clip in a thread last night. Look at the position of Kyle, Ziminski and Rosenbaum. Watch the side step direction. Kyle is moving. He’s right handed. Assuming he is clutching the AR, the barrel of that gun is toward the street. He never points it anyone. Rosenbaum also casually walks up on him and gives him a quick one step motion towards him. I’ve seen enough fights in person to now that’s a typical “do something” aggressive move. Kyle immediately runs and then Rosenbaum gives chase.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:33 pm to
I went into the trial thinking Grosskreutz would be the tricky one as he would make a case he was trying to disarm someone he perceived to be randomly blasting away people. He destroyed all of that with his testimony and admitted Kyle didn't shoot him until he pointed his glock at Kyle. That's why I think Kyle is fine there.

As for skater boy and Rosenbaum, I don't know. I would think Kyle has a good self-defense claim on skater boy. The Rosenbaum situation is difficult as it seems like that one guy who didn't testify fired shots that sparked the chaos.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:33 pm to
Barnes really hates Richards.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:34 pm to
Video shown on Tucker

Drone was shown 9/22/20 on Tucker. Came from Lin Woods group.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:34 pm to
That link has aids
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:34 pm to
If this RLaw guy is telling the truth in that the defense lawyers turned down free help, that's a terrible, egotistical move on their part.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:35 pm to
Agreed. Barnes is not at all happy. He left the team shortly before the Jury was selected because of it:

LINK
Posted by RealDawg
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:36 pm to
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That link has aids


It’s where this video was first seen on Tuckers show…over a year ago.

This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 12:37 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:36 pm to
Also just in case anyone was wondering, Runkle is that guy

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91527 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:36 pm to
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I went into the trial thinking Grosskreutz would be the tricky one as he would make a case he was trying to disarm someone he perceived to be randomly blasting away people. He destroyed all of that with his testimony and admitted Kyle didn't shoot him until he pointed his glock at Kyle. That's why I think Kyle is fine there.

As for skater boy and Rosenbaum, I don't know. I would think Kyle has a good self-defense claim on skater boy. The Rosenbaum situation is difficult as it seems like that one guy who didn't testify fired shots that sparked the chaos.
Then there’s jump kick man that had two errant shots fired at him for a kick he hadn’t landed yet(I assume) with tons of people around.

I think that’s where they put Kyle in prison.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 12:36 pm to
Wait, Barnes was on the defense team? He does seem super butthurt.
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