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re: Jury Deliberation Day 2: Rekieta Law live now

Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:46 am to
Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
4697 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:46 am to
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Unless you stated that your decision was based off of the facts of the case and not on feelz or political opinion, you could be kicked off the jury for perjury, as you had swore an oath to tell the truth and use only the facts of the case when you testified in court as a potential jurist


Yea my conviction would be based on the FACTS of the case. Like I said, I'd tell them: y'all are NOT sending this kid to live in a cage the rest of his life.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:46 am to
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What was the gotcha?

The prosecution asked Kyle "Have you told us EVERYTHING you did up to this point?"

As soon as they asked that question, the lawyers on the Rekieta Law stream said "That's bait!".

Kyle unfortunately took the bait and said "Yes" and that led to them immediately introducing the 2nd drone video. They then said the video shows Kyle is lying and had pointed his gun at Rosenbaum, provoking him.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 11:47 am
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:47 am to
I'd like to hear a not guilty verdict read, then the judge dismisses the case with prejudice, and hold the prosecutor and DA in contempt
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80526 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:47 am to
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Kyle is lying and had pointed his gun at Rosenbaum, provoking him.


The Prosecution said Kyle pointed his gun at the Zelinskis and that allowed Rosenbaum to chase Kyle to protect them.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:48 am to
I just love how the jury is probably, literally, diddling thumbs wondering why they aren't getting to watch this video.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9413 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:48 am to
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I have faith that there is surely one person with common sense. I could see myself laughing in the face of snowflakes with tears in their eyes knowing that they are NOT getting a single conviction with me in the room.

I'd just put my feet on the table and smugly remind them as long as I'm here Kyle will NOT be found guilty of any charge. I'd calmly tell them they all have a choice: Not Guilty or mistrial


My "hunch" is there are jurors to are too afraid to acquit and the Judge will let them off the hook be deairing a mistrial with prejudice.

KW needs a full acquittal so he can go after the every media and politician dickhead that besmirched his reputation.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:51 am to
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Cathy Russon
@cathyrusson
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3m
#KyleRittennhouse - JURY HAS SENT OUT ANOTHER NOTE.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79985 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:51 am to
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My "hunch" is there are jurors to are too afraid to acquit and the Judge will let them off the hook be deairing a mistrial with prejudice
Correct about the jurors, wrong on the judge. He's all bark no bite. This kid will be convicted of something to satisfy the terrorists.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95646 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:52 am to
Hung juries take as long as hung juries take.
Posted by brett408
Member since Jan 2005
2426 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:52 am to
This jury is retarded. This is a clear a case of self defense as there has ever been.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52411 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:52 am to
A Juror or Jurors or dragging this shite out or just didn’t pay attention during trial. All this note passing geez.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:53 am to
I still can't get over Binger having his finger on the trigger while pointing the gun at the jury. I know it was checked and it was cleared but still. Just horribly ignorant on how to handle a gun.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38449 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:53 am to
Correct. This judge has no balls at all.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:54 am to
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Has the video been post edited in any manner using post production tools for image grading and enhancements?
Yes.

What is very odd from the onset is that the HD video the prosecution presented was clearly cropped.

1920x844?? WTF is that screen ratio? It was clearly originally 1080p, but they lost pixels during the zoom in “enhancement” that turned it 844p.

Then they had an “expert” (cough) from the video company they used testify and confirm that their software artificially adds pixels to try and create what it thinks are the images. But even he couldn’t say exactly how it works, AND, his own company website says this software should not be used in evidentiary findings for court proceedings.

And I just realized the compression was worse than I thought. It went from 1920x844 down to 460x212.

A 75% reduction in size and quality is what was given to the defense. No way they could zoom in and see Zeminski’s gun or what Kyle was even doing with his.

This is overwhelmingly obvious evidence tampering and misconduct. But the defense has really dropped the ball on this. Even their motion to dismiss with prejudice is flimsy. They could have destroyed the prosecution with expert testimony on this issue. Total blunder.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38449 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:56 am to
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This jury is retarded. This is a clear a case of self defense as there has ever been.



You will never be able to pull 12 intelligent, sane people from the general public. You will always have at least a few liberals or idiots who would look at the sky and tell you its purple. The American public is beyond saving.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65846 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:56 am to
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I still can't get over Binger having his finger on the trigger while pointing the gun at the jury. I know it was checked and it was cleared but still. Just horribly ignorant on how to handle a gun.


I would have visibly reacted to that if I were a juror. Like tried to duck out of the way immediately.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:57 am to
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I still can't get over Binger having his finger on the trigger while pointing the gun at the jury. I know it was checked and it was cleared but still. Just horribly ignorant on how to handle a gun.




Yeah that blew me away too.

I was 6 years old and my dad taught me gun safety. He taught me with a BB gun. When he let me handle the gun I swung it around and unknowingly pointed it at him. He punished me for a week.

But the point sunk in. Never, whether loaded or not, point a gun at someone.
Posted by jatilen
Member since May 2020
13608 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:57 am to
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Correct. This judge has no balls at all.


Correction: The media has his balls. He's allowing the media to influence his rulings. He's more concerned with how he looks in the media than doing the right thing.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 11:58 am
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20873 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:57 am to
so any idea when the judge will rule on the motion to dismiss since the prosecution withheld evidence? He made mention of it when they were ruling on the jury request but he didn't say when he would rule.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95646 posts
Posted on 11/17/21 at 11:58 am to
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I would have visibly reacted to that if I were a juror. Like tried to duck out of the way immediately.



I would ask the judge and bailiff to prevent anyone from pointing a gun at me. They are responsible for my safety.

This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 12:02 pm
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