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Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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For muh fight types and just because Trump always surrounds himself with people who think they're smarter than they are, who engage in cleverness, only to end up stepping on their own dicks. Then the MAGA rank and file, who got so riled up with the muh fight' emotional promotion of this strategy, claim the system is corrupt, instead of realize that their guy just fricked up for no earthly reason again. Just like with Garcia. They could have avoided this whole shite show by just bringing him back, doing it properly, and fixing it on the DL but now it's a major story and they look, at best, like idiots (and at worst like authoritarians).
Shorter statement:
Sfp doesn't like the law and prefers an oligarchy of retards run the country.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'll bet the CIA can link them to Maduro.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:50 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Sfp doesn't like the law
The law is fine when applied legally and within the confines of the law itself.
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and prefers an oligarchy of retards run the country.
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Then the MAGA rank and file, who got so riled up with the muh fight' emotional promotion of this strategy, claim the system is corrupt, instead of realize that their guy just fricked up for no earthly reason again.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:50 pm to Jbird
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The Proclamation makes no reference to and in no manner suggests that a threat exists of an organized, armed group of individuals entering the United States at the direction of Venezuela to conquer the country or assume control over a portion of the nation.
Well, that's a very limited, retarded interpretation. So a foreign country can send illegals here to cause chaos, but we can't do anything unless they intend to assume control over a portion of the nation? How dumb can you be.
We know that Venezuela sent gangbangers here. That is enough.
America will die due to suicidal empathy and legal interpretations made without common sense. It will die because people care more about being righteous in their principles than doing the smart and right thing.
We are a country dominated by imbeciles.
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the Proclamation does not suggest that they have done so through an organized armed attack
More retardation. How was TdA going door to door to take over an apartment complex not an "organized armed attack?"
Even if it wasn't organized, it is still an incredibly stupid interpretation. So now, China can send 100,000 illegals out of uniform to individually cause damage to our country, and we can't round them up until after an attack and will be forced to deport them individually.
This judge is a dumbass. He has no consideration for the real world consequences of his stupidity.
And no, Trump appointing him does not make the ruling any less retarded, and a retarded ruling by a Trump appointed judge does not make removing illegal gangbangers through the AEA any less sensible.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:52 pm to TrueTiger
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I'll bet the CIA can link them to Maduro.
It's going to almost assuredly, ultimately, require more than just a "link"
I'll give an easy example. We can link the 911 hijackers to Saudi Arabia all day long, but it doesn't mean that alone makes them official military agents of the state of Saudi Arabia. This is opposed to various acts of terror of other states like Iran, Libya, etc.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:52 pm to captainFid
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I'm hopeful when the Supreme Court looks at 50 + cases being appealed by the Trump Administration landing in their laps, they say .... enough with this BS
You're hopeful that the system of checks and balances fails? Yall really do want a king.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:53 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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So a foreign country can send illegals here to cause chaos, but we can't do anything
There are 1,000 things we can do without relying on the AEA.
This dramatic framing is always the go-to in these discussions.
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We know that Venezuela sent gangbangers here. That is enough.
Clearly it's not.
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America will die due to suicidal empathy and legal interpretations made without common sense
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This judge is a dumbass. He has no consideration for the real world consequences of his stupidity.
muh Living Document
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There are 1,000 things we can do without relying on the AEA.
Such as?
Posted on 5/1/25 at 12:59 pm to Bonkers119
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You're hopeful that the system of checks and balances fails? Yall really do want a king.
Go back and study what the Supreme Court is, get a tutor, google, library, and in a few years of finally grasping it, come back and respond to that poster again.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:08 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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So now, China can send 100,000 illegals out of uniform to individually cause damage to our country, and we can't round them up until after an attack and will be forced to deport them individually.
Correct.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:08 pm to Jbird
The Judge seems to be saying that the deficiency is in the Proclamation itself. That the Proclamation does not set forth the necessary conditions to invoke the Act.
So, the facts "on the ground" so to speak are not the issue - it is solely a problem with the language in the Proclamation.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:09 pm to This GUN for HIRE
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Such as?
Arrest them normally
Detain them for deportation
etc
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:09 pm to High C
Can’t do that lol
Idiots
Idiots
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:10 pm to JimEverett
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The Judge seems to be saying that the deficiency is in the Proclamation itself. That the Proclamation does not set forth the necessary conditions to invoke the Act.
So, the facts "on the ground" so to speak are not the issue - it is solely a problem with the language in the Proclamation.
I think the status/activities of the TDA guys and that not falling within the statute is going to always be the variable the admin struggles with.
They can make a loose connection between Maduro and TDA but nothing close to turning them into an invasion force of the state of Venezuela.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's clear the folks in the admin who decided to use the AEA for this have drunk their own kool-aid about the 'invasion' of immigrants, hence this particular Act's usage.
They hear/spread the ideological position that America is being 'invaded', saw 'invasion' in the AEA and said "oh perfect, here's the tool I need to use to stop the 'invasion'"
When in reality it's for something entirely different and these folks are now showing arse in real time because they don't actually know shite about the law
They hear/spread the ideological position that America is being 'invaded', saw 'invasion' in the AEA and said "oh perfect, here's the tool I need to use to stop the 'invasion'"
When in reality it's for something entirely different and these folks are now showing arse in real time because they don't actually know shite about the law
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:27 pm to Bonkers119
quote:Of course not. But folks like you are all in for 'gridlock' when, and if, it benefits you.
You're hopeful that the system of checks and balances fails? Yall really do want a king.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Then the MAGA rank and file, who got so riled up with the muh fight' emotional promotion of this strategy, claim the system is corrupt, instead of realize that their guy just fricked up for no earthly reason again.
Clown show.
My view on this predates maga by a decade.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
The Judge wrote
The defect for the Judge appears to be the language of the Proclamation itself. Had the Proclamaion made note that Venezuelan gangs (that are effectively under the control of the Venezuelan government, had taken over part of Aurora, Colorado then there would be no defect in the Proclamation.
My point appears true when you consider the Judge had written,
This doesn't seem like a particularly strong argument against the invocation of the AEA.
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The Proclamation makes no reference to and in no manner suggests that a threat exists of an organized, armed group of individuals entering the United States at the direction of Venezuela to conquer the country or assume control over a portion of the
nation. Thus, the Proclamation’s language cannot be read as describing conduct that falls within the meaning of “invasion” for purposes of the AEA.
The defect for the Judge appears to be the language of the Proclamation itself. Had the Proclamaion made note that Venezuelan gangs (that are effectively under the control of the Venezuelan government, had taken over part of Aurora, Colorado then there would be no defect in the Proclamation.
My point appears true when you consider the Judge had written,
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And as previously explained, the political question doctrine prohibits the Court from weighing the truth of those factual statements, including whether Maduro directs TdA’s actions or the extent of the referenced criminal activity. Instead, the Court determines whether
the factual statements in the Proclamation, taken as true, describe an “invasion” or “predatory incursion” for purposes of the AEA.
This doesn't seem like a particularly strong argument against the invocation of the AEA.
Posted on 5/1/25 at 1:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They can make a loose connection between Maduro and TDA
LINK
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but nothing close to turning them into an invasion force of the state of Venezuela
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any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government
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