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Judge ruled that migrants flown to Martha’s Vineyard can sue charter flight company

Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:57 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:57 am
WTF??

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BOSTON -- Lawyers representing migrants flown to Martha's Vineyard nearly two years ago by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis can sue the charter flight company that transported them to the island off the Massachusetts coast, according to a ruling Monday by a federal judge in Boston.

The 50 Venezuelans were sent to Martha’s Vineyard from San Antonio, Texas, and had been promised work and housing opportunities.


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Under Monday's ruling, the migrants can proceed with their suit against Florida-based Vertol Systems Co., which had agreed to fly them to the island for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

An email to the company seeking comment after the afternoon release of the ruling was not immediately returned.

Also named in the suit is DeSantis, who ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination for president before dropping out in January.

The U.S. District Court of Massachusetts said in its ruling that it does not have jurisdiction over DeSantis in this case.

The court, however, found that the facts of the case “taken together, support an inference that Vertol and the other Defendants specifically targeted Plaintiffs because they were Latinx immigrants.”

The DeSantis administration noted that the judges' order dismissed the state defendants.


“As we've always stated, the flights were conducted lawfully and authorized by the Florida Legislature,” Julia Friedland, the deputy press secretary for DeSantis, said in a statement. “We look forward to Florida's next illegal immigrant relocation flight, and we are glad to bring national attention to the crisis at the southern border.”

The court also said that “Unlike ICE agents legitimately enforcing the country’s immigration laws ... the Court sees no legitimate purpose for rounding up highly vulnerable individuals on false pretenses and publicly injecting them into a divisive national debate.”

Iván Espinoza-Madrigal, executive director of Lawyers for Civil Rights, called the 77-page ruling a major victory in the Martha’s Vineyard case.

He said in a statement that the ruling sends the message that private companies can be held accountable for helping rogue state actors violate the rights of vulnerable immigrants through what it characterized as illegal and fraudulent schemes.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/wireStory/migrants-flown-marthas-vineyard-florida-gov-ron-desantis-108726856
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:59 am to
Boston judges have no jurisdiction over Florida. Cases will be thrown out.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 10:59 am to
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Boston judges have no jurisdiction over Florida.

That's what they ruled. Did you read OP?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3096 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:01 am to
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He said in a statement that the ruling sends the message


That's the entire point of the ruling
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15659 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:02 am to
Imagine being able to come into a country illegally. Being transported to Marthas Vinyard free of charge to find work in a sanctuary area - Being rejected by the sanctuary and then being able to sue as illegals against the charter company that you got a free ride on in a country where you are not even legal.

The absolute state of this country.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
81451 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:02 am to
Question for you, SFP. I know that this will cost the charter flight company tons in legal bills, but has anybody ever tried just hiring a very cheap young attorney who basically "treads water" and does an okay job, but that they don't expect to win with, knowing that they'll lose the initial case in an unfriendly leftist court (Boston) but that it's headed for appeal in more friendly jurisdiction (Florida or circuit court) anyhow? And then when you're in a friendly venue THAT'S when you hire a more expensive attorney?

TL;DR - Judges are more politicized than ever - why even try to fight it when you're in a leftist court over a very politicized case? Just surrender and save your fight for the appeals.

This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 11:05 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21703 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:03 am to
Good thing we don't need tort reform.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24495 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:04 am to
The courts have become nothing more than political weapons. SroFroPedo is creaming himself with all of this, and he is already here wagging his finger at everyone doing his best Perry Mason impersonation to make sure we all know he's the bestest lawyah evahhhh
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
81451 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:04 am to
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Imagine being able to come into a country illegally. Being transported to Marthas Vinyard free of charge to find work in a sanctuary area - Being rejected by the sanctuary and then being able to sue as illegals against the charter company that you got a free ride on in a country where you are not even legal.

The absolute state of this country.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422114 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:05 am to
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but has anybody ever tried just hiring a very cheap young attorney who basically "treads water" and does an okay job, but that they don't expect to win with, knowing that they'll lose the initial case in an unfriendly leftist court (Boston) but that it's headed for appeal in more friendly jurisdiction (Florida or circuit court) anyhow?

No because the appeals court will almost always be limited to the record from the trial court. If you rely on a young/bad attorney at the trial court level, they are less likely to make a good record for the appeals court.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:06 am to
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SroFroPedo is creaming himself with all of this, and he is already here wagging his finger at everyone doing his best Perry Mason impersonation to make sure we all know he's the bestest lawyah evahhhh


Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101323 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:06 am to
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rounding up highly vulnerable individuals on false pretenses


The one where a state or municipality declares themselves to be a SANCTUARY for illegal immigrants?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19304 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:08 am to
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violate the rights of vulnerable immigrants through what it characterized as illegal and fraudulent schemes.

The only thing illegal in this situation is these immigrants immigration status.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30113 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:12 am to
The swamp never takes a loss.

It has too much money and too many ppl in places of power.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:14 am to
Our legal system is so fricking warped.
Posted by TrueTiger
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67740 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:16 am to

Lawfare has destroyed justice.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30437 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:19 am to
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Our legal system is so fricking warped.


Ya think?

I did like this statement though:

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“As we've always stated, the flights were conducted lawfully and authorized by the Florida Legislature,” Julia Friedland, the deputy press secretary for DeSantis, said in a statement. “We look forward to Florida's next illegal immigrant relocation flight, and we are glad to bring national attention to the crisis at the southern border.”
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:23 am to
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Lawfare has destroyed justice.


Rule of law has been trampled by lawyers and activists.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422114 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:26 am to
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The one where a state or municipality declares themselves to be a SANCTUARY for illegal immigrants?

I think the claims are based in people alleging they were promised jobs and shelter at the new location.

I believe posters are freaking out thinking the charter company already lost the case, when that's not what happened.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4090 posts
Posted on 4/2/24 at 11:27 am to
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SOROS -- Lawyers


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