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re: Judge orders Trump Administration to (spins the wheel) "Release arrested Columbia student"

Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:45 am to
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6985 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:45 am to
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Huh? The history of litigating our government and hanging up everything the government does in court goes back a long ways. Are you familiar with naders raiders?


You are such a transparent prick.

Never in our history has a president's mandate been blocked by this many judges and lawfare. NEVER. Over 220 lawsuits in 100 days.

Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
9206 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:45 am to
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It seems like one of these cases, at least, is going to address the limits - if any - of free speech that foreign nationals/green card holders have.


I can throw a guest off my property for any reason i want. “Free speech” isn’t the issue.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:46 am to
Release him to his native country…. Problem solved…
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138978 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:46 am to
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Judge orders Trump Administration to (spins the wheel) "Release arrested Columbia student"
If it were true, I'd have no problem with that. Did he lie on his application?
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4415 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:49 am to
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can someone explain the whole judge thing? I don't understand how these cases even get to them?



man.... this country is fricked
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
40237 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:06 am to
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Did you say the same about J-6'ers?

Were they not charged with a crime? My understanding is everyone arrested was charged with something. If not then they shouldn't have been in jail either.
Posted by longtooth
Member since Jun 2013
529 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:09 am to
Where were "Our" judges at when the J6 captives were being held indefinitely?
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 11:11 am
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2408 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:13 am to
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I can throw a guest off my property for any reason i want. “Free speech” isn’t the issue.


It is going to be the issue. This guy and Khalil are going to attack the statute that authorizes the Sec. of State to remove a non-citizen when the Secretary reasonably believes that the non-citizen undermines a foreign policy objective of the US.
They are going to attack it on the basis that it denies them their freedom of expression.
I am almost certain that this statute has never been attacked on those grounds before - so we shall see.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3854 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:16 am to
I'm sure the judge felt the same way about us citizens being held for years without charges
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6414 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:23 am to
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Just ask oklahogjr.


Why don’t we just ask Grok?

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No, January 6th defendants were not held in jail without being charged with a crime. According to multiple sources, not all individuals arrested in connection with the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot were charged with federal crimes. By January 20, 2025, over 1,575 people had been charged, with charges ranging from misdemeanors like unlawful entry and disorderly conduct to felonies such as assault on law enforcement, obstruction of an official proceeding, and seditious conspiracy. Federal rules and the Constitution require that arrested defendants be promptly presented to a judge and charged, and holding someone for months without charges would be illegal. Some defendants were held without bail, but this was due to judicial determinations that they posed a danger to the community, were flight risks, or were at high risk of obstructing justice. For example, as of July 2021, several dozen defendants deemed violent or high-risk were held without bond, often in restrictive housing, which some criticized as solitary confinement. Claims on platforms like X suggesting defendants were jailed for months without charges are not supported by evidence from court records or official statements
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4415 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:30 am to
guys like him don't actually receive real information... too deep in the MAGA hole, shut out from the light of factual truth... willing to believe whatever pops up on x or facebook if it suits.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19522 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:33 am to
These same judges of which you speak ignored or outright denied without hearing the very same petitions that J6 jailed prisoners brought to them.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14695 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:34 am to
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guys like him don't actually receive real information... too deep in the MAGA hole, shut out from the light of factual truth... willing to believe whatever pops up on x or facebook if it suits.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59469 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:35 am to
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Good why should someone charged with no crime sit in jail?


Those going through removal hearings are routinely detained. Immigration court is administrative, not criminal. Dummy
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59469 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:35 am to
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Huh? The history of litigating our government and hanging up everything the government does in court goes back a long ways. Are you familiar with naders raiders?


It’s a matter of volume. Dummy.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Nola
Member since Dec 2012
4415 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:36 am to
Oh do you find yourself there too?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59469 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:42 am to
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judicial determinations that they posed a danger to the community, were flight risks, or were at high risk of obstructing justice.


Amazing you actually support this clear violation of the 8th Amendment. You’re a disgusting Fascist.
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 11:44 am
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14695 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:00 pm to
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Oh do you find yourself there too?


Nope. I do not. Why would you ask?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:50 pm to
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These same judges of which you speak ignored or outright denied without hearing the very same petitions that J6 jailed prisoners brought to them.


I agree COMPLETELY with your sentiment. In my opinion most J6 protesters were abused by the judicial process.

As a practical matter, though, only judges in D.C. were responsible for those abuses.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6630 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 3:07 pm to
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These cases get to judges because someone files a habeas corpus petition in that judge's court. The petition alleges that their detention is unlawful.


And it only takes one somewhere to say "Ok. I agree.." and the whole thing is overturned? If I were sentenced for a federal crime what is stopping me from having these petitions filed in EVERY SINGLE COURT until I get an answer I like better?
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