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re: Judge orders Prattville, AL Christmas parade to include LGBTQ float
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:39 am to AUCom96
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:39 am to AUCom96
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So S&M groups, swingers, NAMBLA, neo-nazis… all would get the same leeway from a federal judge in this case?
None of those groups would be able to claim immutable characteristics except maybe NAMBLA now that the field of psychology is starting to affirm that pedophilia is a sexual orientation. Bu even that one is shaky because it hasn't become a majority opinion yet (that I know of).
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You know better.
No, I don't. You don't either. Because courts have been consistent for a while now about what traits can and can't be discriminated against legally and political views don't count, nor are sexual fetishes per se considered sexual orientations.
Now, that doesn't mean that Pride Parades aren't always chock full of displays of fetishism, but the gay part is the part that the law considers an immutable characteristic, not the fetish.
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This was aimed to leave no time to fight a legal battle.
O.k., so what? That doesn't mean it would have turned out differently had it not been done that way. If you think it would have, tell me how.
From the Yale Law Journal:
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Courts often hold that anti-discrimination law protects “immutable” characteristics, like sex and race. In a series of recent cases, gay rights advocates have persuaded courts to expand the concept of immutability to include not just those traits an individual cannot change, but also those considered too important for anyone to be asked to change. Sexual orientation and religion are paradigmatic examples.
Note: this was from 2015, so those "recent" cases aren't recent anymore, but the consistency upholding them hasn't changed as far as I know.
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It’s amazing how many fervent supporters this appears to have in Prattville, equating a sexual proclivity to some great civil rights struggle.
Not really. Not to me, anyway. Homosexuality has been being aggressively normalized for fifty years. That's half a century. In both higher and lower education, in the media, in the entertainment industry, in basically all of the mechanisms of thought influence.
And the average American doesn't think about these issues more than a centimeter deep. They just parrot what they hear. And while homos have been being normalized, simultaneously the nuclear family has been being destroyed, postmodernism has been influencing thought to the point that most people under 30 these days believe in no moral authority or objective morality, just moral relativism (until someone wants to limit abortion, that is, and then they suddenly believe that is objectively wrong), etc., etc.
It's disappointing. But it's not surprising.
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Why is it so important to get drag queens in front of small children for these people? The entire routine is to mock and destroy the family.
I think destroying the family is Satan's larger goal. I think being in the parade and putting drag queens in front of children is entirely for the purpose of continuing to normalize the behavior.
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Sad so many halfwit millennial wine moms have fully bought in.
It's not just them. It's the beta males they're married to as well.
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:43 am to Kirk Herbstreit
They have a whole month to do their parades. If they want included in all other parades, then they need to include Christian floats and marches at their parades .
This parade needs canceled and parents should not take their kids around this crap.
Someone should slash their tires before the parade starts, and then they won’t get to go thru it
This parade needs canceled and parents should not take their kids around this crap.
Someone should slash their tires before the parade starts, and then they won’t get to go thru it
Posted on 12/7/24 at 8:55 am to Kirk Herbstreit
As a gay conservative I want everyone to know that by dropping out you are doing exactly what the pride groups want. Do you think Jesus would decide not to go speak somewhere because their were people against him there. Those mental pride groups don't want " Jesus" in the parade. Don't drop out stay in and stand your ground
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:20 am to SOSFAN
quote:I think it has more to do with not wanting to subject onlookers—including children—to a drag show.
As a gay conservative I want everyone to know that by dropping out you are doing exactly what the pride groups want. Do you think Jesus would decide not to go speak somewhere because there were people against him there. Those mental pride groups don't want " Jesus" in the parade. Don't drop out stay in and stand your ground
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:21 am to Kirk Herbstreit
The people decide.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:25 am to FooManChoo
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think it has more to do with not wanting to subject onlookers—including children—to a drag show.
That's unfortunate because it's a great teaching moment and an opportunity to show right from wrong. Can't protect children everywhere especially when they are in school so why not take them and teach them how bad it is so when they do get exposed to it, and they will, they will have the power to understand itsxwrong.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:27 am to Kirk Herbstreit
Unleash the hounds. Of the Cane Corso variety.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 9:29 am
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:28 am to Kirk Herbstreit
"The Christmas parade is a cherished holiday tradition, and we are excited to celebrate alongside our neighbors and friends in the spirit of love, joy, and unity.”
These attributes aren't found anywhere within the LGBTQHIJK community.
These attributes aren't found anywhere within the LGBTQHIJK community.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:30 am to SOSFAN
No wonder you’re a cock fan lol
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:30 am to SOSFAN
quote:I actually agree. I think Christian families should show up and teach their children about sin and the need for salvation in Jesus Christ, then shout at the people on the float to turn from their wickedness and believe in Jesus. They can also send shame their way through a chorus of boos.
That's unfortunate because it's a great teaching moment and an opportunity to show right from wrong. Can't protect children everywhere especially when they are in school so why not take them and teach them how bad it is so when they do get exposed to it, and they will, they will have the power to understand itsxwrong.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:34 am to wackatimesthree
Is it possible to create a group named something like the coalition of Christian churches and have that group acquire the parade permit and only allow floats from churches that are members of the group?
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:34 am to wackatimesthree
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None of those groups would be able to claim immutable characteristics except maybe NAMBLA now that the field of psychology is starting to affirm that pedophilia is a sexual orientation. Bu even that one is shaky because it hasn't become a majority opinion yet (that I know of).
They weren't banning gays though. They were banning the gay pride float. Gay pride is a political movement. Could the Catholics had a "No Abortion" float where they had photos of botched abortions all over the float?
Now if they allowed political movements in the Christmas parade (Like some random councilman running for reelection) then they wouldn't have been able to use that excuse.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:36 am to FooManChoo
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think Christian families should show up and teach their children about sin and the need for salvation in Jesus Christ, then shout at the people on the float to turn from their wickedness and believe in Jesus. They can also send shame their way through a chorus of boos.
This x1000. If y'all want these morons to stop you need to make them uncomfortable. They need to do exactly what you stated.
I've never been to a pride parade as I think it's ridiculous. Demanding respect then marching down the street in a pink tutu or in drag is ludicrous.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 9:38 am
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:37 am to BuzzSaw 12
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Cancel the fricking parade then.
Or the people watching from the sidewalk could throw rotten vegetables and eggs at them.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:42 am to themunch
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My vote was cancel it
Why give one group so much power? Canceling the parade would make the lgbqrstwxyz groups happy. All you would be doing is empowering their group. You have to stand up and stand your ground..
Do you think Jesus would have canceled the sermon on the mount if someone was there he didn't agree with.
This post was edited on 12/7/24 at 9:59 am
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:56 am to CatsGoneWild
Make their float dead last.
Put a giant float in front of it and have it beak down so the gay float never participates.
Put a giant float in front of it and have it beak down so the gay float never participates.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 9:57 am to wackatimesthree
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I think destroying the family is Satan's larger goal. I think being in the parade and putting drag queens in front of children is entirely for the purpose of continuing to normalize the behavior
And this is my point. This was never about the “immutable” (debatably scientific) characteristic of gay, it’s about marching drag queens in front of small children. That is what drew protest from my understanding , not simply a gay inclusion. And on the subject of “immutable”, it’s about as scientific to say gay is that as a drug addict. One just has a political acceptance.
Yes, it’s about war on the family and is likely backed by out of state dollars. And the legal system is hiding behind loose pseudo-science and political bias that isn’t afforded to those outside of that current circle.
Posted on 12/7/24 at 10:03 am to jake wade
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Shower them with boos when they roll by.
I knew piss balloons had a purpose...
Posted on 12/7/24 at 10:05 am to Kirk Herbstreit
What does being gay have jack shite to do with Christmas?! What standing did the alphabet people have to sue in the first place?
Here is a solution. Tell the LGBTQ they are the first float and they roll at 10 am. The second and remaining floats start at 1pm. You can even advertise the times as such and see who shows up at 10.
Here is a solution. Tell the LGBTQ they are the first float and they roll at 10 am. The second and remaining floats start at 1pm. You can even advertise the times as such and see who shows up at 10.
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