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John Ringo on what really went down with the syrian/russian airstrikes (Mass US firepower)

Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:36 am
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:36 am
From Ringos facebook

Soooo...
Further reporting, such as it is, on the Dair Ezzor Turkey Shoot.
1. Sov... err... Russians built a bridge over the Euphrates which was the designated 'deconfliction line'. Why? Reasons. 'Commite of Nations' or something.
2. 'Hybrid' force of mixed Russian contractors including multiple non-ethnic Russians (Serbs, Kossack, other non Slavics) as well as local Syrian Army
'commandos' attacked across temporary bridge. The 'Russian' side were 'Blackwater' equivalent mercenaries from a company generally called 'Wagner'
which is the nom de plume of the boss. (Like if you called Blackwater 'Prince'.)
3. Unit was partially mechanized, battalion strength. (One thing everyone agrees upon is 'about 600-700 personnel.') Had some towed artillery as well
as 't-55 and T-72 MBT as well as armored personnel carriers.' (Type unknown.) Full on 'we're taking that position and you're not stopping us' full court press.
4. Unit crossed bridge, arty deployed.
5. Arty opened fire while most of unit was still in approach column formation. (Normal) One portion moved to flanking positions.
5A. Minute the arty opened fire shite GOT REAL REAL QUICK.
6. Reapers took out artillery and most of armor with Hellfire. From the few videos, pretty much before they knew what hit them. There had to be quite a few Reaper drones up or they were feeding guidance to Hellfire from Apaches (see below.)
7. F-15E Eagles came in for clean-up and to check for anti-air defenses.
8. Warthogs showed up just to go BRRRRRRT!
9. AC-130 Spectre started fricking up their day for the hell of it.
10. To add insult to injury, B-52s which, you know, just HAPPENED to be in the area, just minding our own business, just passing by from Diego Garcia which is a few thousand miles away, on our way to... somewhere... nothing to see here... decided to prove they could drop their entire load as precision guided weapons and just more or less DID A JDAM ARCLIGHT ON THEIR arse. At that point, more or less because CENTCOM said 'Why not? ARCLIGHT is always pretty to watch...'
11. The whole thing being so over it was ridiculous, AH-64 Apaches basically did 'hostile Bomb Damage Assessment' and complained there were no targets left.
12. Oh, and then the Kurds, to just really frick with these guys, released water from a dam upstream and broke their bridge. So they had to ford back with their wounded.
13. Nobody knows how many dead and wounded. Russians are saying 'only 8 Russian citizens' but that doesn't quite cover the whole of who may have been involved. One repeated number is 200 dead (remember, mixed Syrians, Russians and other ethnics) as well as pretty much the rest of the force wounded. (Not to mention pretty thoroughly demoralized.) One Kurd wounded. Probably fell off a stool laughing to tell truth.
14. Military hospitals in Russia are reliably reported 'overflowing.'
This was much less a 'battle' than a message. Towards the end we had to just be pounding ground to make sure they got it.
Messages, really.
A. Don't fricking cross that river.
B. Hey, North Korea! LOOK WHAT I CAN DO!
C. Hey, Putin, about Donbas... This is what we can do to your 'freedom fighters' (AKA: mercenaries) at any time.
D. To everyone in general: You need to remember who's boss.
Mattis is playing dumb. 'What Russians? There were Russians? Really? I'm seeing that in the media but I got no briefing on there being Russians in that column. Our bad. Sorry about that.'
Then there's the fact that the strike was NOT approved by the President.
Because he gave CENTOM the approval on things like that.
And CENTCOM handled it like a BOSS.
Oh, and when the forces crossed the river the Russians were informed and informed that we intended to take 'self-defense' actions.
So they can't even say they weren't warned.
I'm not sure we warned them we'd be using BUFF.
This is more the sort of thing I'd expect in late summer.
'shite! We haven't expended our budget! Are there any Russians we can frick up very badly with all these unexpended munitions?'
Last thought: It had to be shitty being on the receiving end of that.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 3:46 am to
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 4:09 am to
I’ve been following this and I have to say this battle will solidify the US as the dominating force in the ME and world. Russians threw their best vs our best and got smoked. We must be way ahead in terms of military hardware and tatics
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 4:20 am to
We need to get the hell out of Syria.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17015 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 4:21 am to
quote:

We must be way ahead in terms of military hardware and tatics


More importantly, we're way ahead with our eyes in the sky. We know every little detail of what's happening on the battlefield thanks to far superior reconnaissance and intel. Knowledge is our real strength. That and the speed at which we can respond with overwhelming fire power from land, air and sea.

Everyone else on earth is a joke in comparison. Only chance we have of defeat is if aliens from planet Zotar decide to zap us with their space rays. In that case, we might be fricked.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27822 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 4:25 am to
We own the air. Zero possibility of anyone winning a battle against us without grounding our multi-platform air units. It’s just not a fair fight. I can’t imagine the stupidity to give the order to attack a fixed position like that.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 4:30 am to
Our other chance of defeat is electing Democrats.
Posted by Da Sheik
Trump Tower
Member since Sep 2007
7938 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 6:36 am to
Here is an intercepted Russian Communication describing what took place. Russians are shook up big time.
A foreshadowing of what's really possible when you set the military loose to really kill the bad guys and break their shite. I thought MAGA was hand picked by Putin.

Conversation starts at 10:001

LINK
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 6:42 am
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15378 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:42 am to
If the President needs a press secretary, there's your guy.

I'm not on Facebook much, but John is one of my favorite authors and his is solid gold.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:45 am to
It's amazing that people think the US DOD is in any danger of being defeated in a conflict like this. We could cut the budget to 250b and still be completely untouchable.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422393 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:46 am to
quote:

12. Oh, and then the Kurds, to just really frick with these guys, released water from a dam upstream and broke their bridge. So they had to ford back with their wounded.

damn
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422393 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:47 am to
quote:

We must be way ahead in terms of military hardware and tatics


everyone other than the poster Darth Vader and various Russian military commanders understood this
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:48 am to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 7:54 am to
There’s a Washington Post article from the 8th crying about this like the good little losers they are.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422393 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:01 am to
Link me kind sir
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Russians threw their best vs our best and got smoked.


Let’s not get carried away here.

But the Russians have been pushing us around in tiny spaces under the assumption that we will not push back. This kind of thing can change the dynamic quickly.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:12 am to
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Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58660 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:13 am to
I hope John’s books are written better than that tripe.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95311 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:15 am to
Wish I knew Russian so I could tell if the translation was correct.

The translation on screen boiled down to “We tried to take the plant, Americans were there, someone yelled “They’re coming right for us!”, and unleashed hell. This was such a clusterfrick that Moscow is going to pretend this never happened instead of respond.”

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67075 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:25 am to
So what were our forces doing in Syria? Why were Russian mercenaries attacking us? Clearly CENTCOM saw it coming, but why were both armies even at that location in the first place? What were each of their goals?
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