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re: John Ringo on what really went down with the syrian/russian airstrikes (Mass US firepower)

Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:33 am to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:33 am to
A quick read up on Dier Ez Zor says that it is the provincial capitol and home to the country’s refining industry.

References in the Russian communications to “the plant” implies they were trying to capture the refinery and the US was camped out there to protect it.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32738 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:47 am to
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References in the Russian communications to “the plant” implies they were trying to capture the refinery and the US was camped out there to protect it.


I think that Russia promised a 25% cut to forces that take oil infrastructure. I’ve seen people referring to an oil processing plant in the area. Seems to be a plausible explanation for Wagner’s actions.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52562 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 8:59 am to
Isn't it fricking awesome when you don't telegraph to the world what you're going to do a month before you do it?

My God that lanky legged half breed homo was such a damn amateur.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:00 am to
Why Johnny Ringo!

You look like somebody just walked over your grave
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104035 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:01 am to
It wasn’t just that.

He also talked a lot of shite and didn’t want to back it up, with regards to “red lines” and so forth.


The current military appears to be following the old Teddy Roosevelt motto of “Speak softly and carry a big stick.”
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14396 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:09 am to
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We need to get the hell out of Syria.

Yes let’s collude with Putin to make Russia stronger.
I’m sure that will make us safer.

Perhaps you wish to take your stand in your front yard after my house is on fire and my family dead.

Let’s see how many isolationist downvotes I can get.
This post was edited on 2/19/18 at 9:17 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:12 am to
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And CENTCOM handled it like a BOSS.


Nice!

quote:

Arty opened fire while most of unit was still in approach column formation.


Dumbasses
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177328 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:14 am to
LINK

It’s written from such a weird perspective. A lot of complaining and glass half empty ness since Trump is President.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476724 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:17 am to
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The Syrian government and its ally Iran have repeatedly called for U.S. troops to leave Syria now that the fight against the Islamic State is nearly over, and they have regularly threatened to wage war to push the Americans out if they do not leave.

However, the Trump administration announced a new Syria strategy last month under which U.S. troops will remain in northeastern Syria until there is a peace settlement regarding the wider war that includes a transition away from the rule of President Bashar al-Assad.

With no sign of such a peace deal in sight, the U.S. military is now committed to a potentially indefinite presence in Syria that is opposed by all of the main players in the country.

The prospect that U.S. troops will remain in Syria while shoring up Kurdish efforts to secure self-rule has provoked a convergence among countries opposed to any form of Kurdish autonomy, uniting Turkey, Russia, Iran and the Syrian government in a de facto alliance against the U.S. presence.


that whole article is basically implying that we shouldn't be there, after we kill a Russian offensive, and i bet the author believes that Trump colluded with Russia and may be actively blackmailed by Russia. total clarity
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
14128 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:19 am to
Hopefully a similar result will occur when Turkey tries to take Manjib with their jihadist proxies from our SDF allies.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:21 am to
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Turkey, Russia, Iran and the Syrian government in a de facto alliance against the U.S. presence


frick em.

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:23 am to
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Hopefully a similar result will occur when Turkey tries to take Manjib


Word is the "offensive" is not going well
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104035 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:26 am to
That’s a real crowd of winners there.

Two members of the Axis Of Evil, an aspiring member in Turkey, and Russia trying to reclaim its old Soviet glory.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20402 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:29 am to
Finally we have a leader who will not abandon the Kurds. Some of the best people I've lived around.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23920 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:31 am to
It was a message to Russia and Turkey. Turkey started to attack Kurdish positions because thy feel threatened. I think this was also a message to Erdogan that we will protect our interest and allies at your demise.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:31 am to
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Two members of the Axis Of Evil, an aspiring member in Turkey, and Russia trying to reclaim its old Soviet glory.


We are building up and I believe the target is Iran, interesting times.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20402 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:32 am to
It has been foretold.
Posted by JackaReaux
BR
Member since Feb 2017
1019 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:34 am to
A good old desert dong dropping
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
15522 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:37 am to
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Warthogs showed up just to go BRRRRRRT!


Got a laugh there.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39926 posts
Posted on 2/19/18 at 9:38 am to
Plausible deniability by the Russian's. Of course, the Kremlin knew of the situation, reportedly Spetsnaz "advisors" were among the mix.

Russians serving as mercenaries is "illegal" in Russia, wink,wink.

The Kremlin does this to hide Russian casualties in Syria.

Zinky Boys is a very bad thing to the Russian population after Afghanistan.
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