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re: John King: Trump Surging With Working Class, Hispanics, Blacks…But A Giant Problem Appears
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:33 am to LuckyTiger
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:33 am to LuckyTiger
So the more minorities support Trump, the less college educated whites support Trump?
Hrm...
Hrm...
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Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:37 am to LuckyTiger
Lard arse suburban stay at home Karens with their useless MRS degrees.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:44 am to LuckyTiger
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“Trump is winning practically every rural and small town voter.”
Doesn’t matter these people are far outnumbered by metro areas now who aren’t voting for Trump.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 4:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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I keep seeing some quote from Schumer making the rounds. I see now that he said it in 2016.
“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.”
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Exactly
Indeed ... and now ... for the rest of the story.
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Have Democrats learned their lesson?
By Katrina vanden Heuvel
November 7, 2017
In the run-up to the 2016 election, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) dismissed the possibility that Donald Trump's popularity with rural and working-class voters spelled trouble for the Democratic ticket. "For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia," he proclaimed, reflecting the prevailing attitude within the party establishment. "And you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin."
One year after the election, it's not clear that Democrats have learned their lesson. Many have deluded themselves into believing that Russian interference, and not the party's abysmal failure to win over the working class, was the primary culprit in Hillary Clinton's crushing defeat. Clinton herself has pointed fingers at Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and former FBI director James B. Comey, while mocking former vice president Joe Biden's suggestion that her campaign did not offer a vision for the middle class. But even as Democratic leaders have cleared the wreckage and begun to rebuild, there has not been a full and honest reckoning with what actually happened in 2016 or how the party can avoid the same outcome in the 2018 midterms.
In the absence of an official inquiry, a group of Democratic and progressive activists last week published "Autopsy: The Democratic Party in Crisis." While the 33-page report covers a range of issues, it offers a particularly harsh indictment of the party's self-defeating attempts to simultaneously please its billionaire backers and the working-class voters who make up the Democratic base. "Corporate domination over the party's agenda — and, perhaps more importantly, the perception of corporate control over the party's agenda — rendered the Democrats' messaging on economic issues ideologically rudderless and resulted in a decline in support among working-class people across racial lines," the autopsy states. "We live in a time of unrest and justified cynicism towards those in power; Democrats will not win if they continue to bring a wonk knife to a populist gunfight."
LINK
Posted on 3/6/24 at 4:16 am to LuckyTiger
That's funny, all the college educated suburbanites that I know are Trump supporters. Except the Govt employed and gays.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 4:21 am to ronricks
Women don't understand inflation. I had a woman tell me that she just assumed egg prices were up because roosters were transitioning to hens and thereby sexual contact had dropped. And that she was for it! Every chicken has the right to determine if they are a rooster or hen.
When I explained to her that hens didn't need to have sex to lay eggs, she asked if gay chicken couples could have chics of their own without adopting.
At that point I realized that females personalize issue and tend to explain phenomenon via feelings and social constructs. While a man might immediately think about chicken egg supply and demand, or inflationary monetary policy, or deficit government spending, the woman starts musing about the hen's life and how stressed she must feel at our insatiable appetite for eggs.. etc.
So women are empathic, loving creatures. But they are strangers to logic on a day to day basis.
This is not to say that they can't be great scientists or doctors, or practitioners of rigidly developed science. What it does mean is that, on a daily basis, when operating outside of their narrowly defined and rigidly trained sphere of competence, a woman shifts into an empathetic, daydreamy way of being, which makes them really lousy voters.
When I explained to her that hens didn't need to have sex to lay eggs, she asked if gay chicken couples could have chics of their own without adopting.
At that point I realized that females personalize issue and tend to explain phenomenon via feelings and social constructs. While a man might immediately think about chicken egg supply and demand, or inflationary monetary policy, or deficit government spending, the woman starts musing about the hen's life and how stressed she must feel at our insatiable appetite for eggs.. etc.
So women are empathic, loving creatures. But they are strangers to logic on a day to day basis.
This is not to say that they can't be great scientists or doctors, or practitioners of rigidly developed science. What it does mean is that, on a daily basis, when operating outside of their narrowly defined and rigidly trained sphere of competence, a woman shifts into an empathetic, daydreamy way of being, which makes them really lousy voters.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 4:48 am
Posted on 3/6/24 at 4:27 am to RiverCityTider
And that’s why having a man explain who they should vote for, most effectively from a husband or their father, is important.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 4:46 am to BRgetthenet
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And that’s why having a man explain who they should vote for, most effectively from a husband or their father, is important
The problem is, as they're examining that ballot in the privacy of their on voting booth, they are probably thinking about how you left the toilet seat up yesterday or something.
Suffice it to say, it is good to instruct a wife on whom to vote for. But you need to also review her selections before you two reach the vote counting machine.
Now here is the tricky part. If she has selected Biden/Kamala against your council, how do you dispose of the errant ballot without the poll watchers noticing?
As it is a felony to destroy another person's ballot, doing what a male did in South Carolina 2008, grabbing the wife's ballot and stuffing it down his shorts, resulted in a lost Obama vote and a two year jail term!
The best thing to do upon discovering what she has done is to simply bribe her to destroy it herself. She probably doesn't want to be there anyway, doesn't really care who wins, and will lap up the inducement with no complaint.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 4:51 am
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:33 am to boosiebadazz
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Oh, well in that case, it’s fraud if my guy loses
You mean like in 2016 when democrats said Russians hacked the voting machines for Trump to win?
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:37 am to NC_Tigah
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and now ... for the rest of the story.
The same trend followed in 2018, 2020, and 2022
The only outlier was a few races in 2021 in some purple areas, where the GOP candidates promoted non-Trumpism and told Trump to stay away (like Youngkin in VA).
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:39 am to RiverCityTider
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And that’s why having a man explain who they should vote for, most effectively from a husband or their father, is important
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Suffice it to say, it is good to instruct a wife on whom to vote for. But you need to also review her selections before you two reach the vote counting machine.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:39 am to Gifman
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You mean like in 2016 when democrats said Russians hacked the voting machines for Trump to win?
Yes. Exactly like that.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:48 am to LuckyTiger
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That’s going to be a problem for him.”
The only problem for Trump will be the rigged voting machines and fake ballots submitted by the millions in the middle of the night in swing states by the democrats.
Period.
Well, assassination might become a problem for him if the liberals think their ballot harvesting plan might not work, so that too.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:48 am to RiverCityTider
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But they are strangers to logic on a day to day basis.
I've explained this before.
Women are not strangers to logic. They can use logic just fine (which is why they CAN be doctors and lawyers and such, to quote Willie Nelson). They can use logic just fine...when they want to.
The difference between women and men is that women are not beholden to logic the way men are. They do not consider it to be the ultimate authority the way men do.
If men disagree, they do so by attempting to show that their opponent has misused logic. They hold logic as the authority by which they know all questions or disagreements must be decided and petition for their viewpoint to be considered more consistent with logic's rules. Even if they lose their way and begin to argue emotionally, they will not admit it, because they know that in admitting that they are admitting the worst defeat of all...having argued outside of logic.
Women don't give the tiniest little squirt of piss about dismissing logic altogether. They aren't ashamed of it, they see nothing wrong with it, and do not consider it a defeat or an admission of defeat.
A man will never say this, but a woman won't blink twice before saying (after you have made an impenetrable logical case about something), "I don't care. I feel __________ and that's that."
A man's final authority is logic. A woman's final authority is her feelings.
She can use logic, but she feels no obligation to kneel before it.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 6:50 am
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:54 am to wackatimesthree
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The difference between women and men is that women are not beholden to logic the way men are. They do not consider it to be the ultimate authority the way men do.
I mean all you have to do is watch this board on a day to day basis to see men abandoning logic for emotion pretty constantly.
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If men disagree, they do so by attempting to show that their opponent has misused logic.
Again, this board is a great place to see this not occurring.
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Even if they lose their way and begin to argue emotionally, they will not admit it, because they know that in admitting that they are admitting the worst defeat of all...having argued outside of logic.
Yes.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:58 am to LuckyTiger
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College educated suburban voters…
This is one of the dumbest voting blocks in the country, in my opinion. In my experience, most “college educated” people under 40-45 lack common sense, historical awareness, and are economically illiterate.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:01 am to LuckyTiger
So, pretty much the same coalition that Ronald Reagan assembled in 1984.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:02 am to LuckyTiger
So, pretty much the same coalition that Ronald Reagan assembled in 1984.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:08 am to boosiebadazz
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We trust him with the data on the first three but think he’s making up the last bullet point?
Now you are catching on.
I believe, but may be wrong, it’s called confirmation bias.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:09 am to LuckyTiger
So the same people being indoctrinated on college campuses that voted against him last will continue to do so?
How is this “news?”
It would be like saying, “Holy shite, low-t is voting for Biden in 2024!”
How is this “news?”
It would be like saying, “Holy shite, low-t is voting for Biden in 2024!”
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