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re: Joe Kent Leaked Charlie Kirk’s Private Texts to Candace Owens

Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:06 pm to
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do you believe its outside of possible for him to be killed?


It’s not outside the realm of possibility. It is outside the realm of evidence. And that’s a big deal.

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people like Candice have a thousand times more access to information than we do.


lol. No, she doesn’t. She’s relying on audience sourced tips. Then she pretends to vet them and presto. Content.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15135 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:09 pm to
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Are you arguing Israeli donors weren’t trying to leverage Charlie Kirk


Do you know what a donor is & does?

They donate to a cause that’s aligned with their ideology. The pro-Israel donors didn’t want to subsidize Tucker Carlson appearances.

There’s nothing nefarious about it, and it’s kinda weird that Kirk, as a fundraiser, didn’t understand that.
Posted by MontanaTiger
Montana
Member since Oct 2008
3961 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:20 pm to
Notice that they want the focus to be on the circumstances of the leak rather than the content of the text messages which clearly show Charlie becoming disillusioned with the Zionist lobby.
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
2140 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:29 pm to
Now don’t get the Israel First boomers riled up in here.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25318 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:32 pm to
We give way too much clout to these podcasters......nothing more than one voice and people react way too often.

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23369 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:49 pm to
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They donate to a cause that’s aligned with their ideology. The pro-Israel donors didn’t want to subsidize Tucker Carlson appearances. There’s nothing nefarious about it, and it’s kinda weird that Kirk, as a fundraiser, didn’t understand that.

I think the issue if there is one is that CK thought these were conservative donors who happened to be Jewish or Israeli.

It became clear that the preeminent agenda for them wasn’t the conservative one but rather pro-Israeli messaging to the point that if certain talking points weren’t used they were out.

It’s impossible for me to take Levin and Shapiro seriously when they treat the conservative movement like a sugar coating to wash down an Israeli propaganda campaign.

Its certainly not any more illegal than buying ad spots on Fox, but it’s absolutely reinforcing the perception that many within the conservative movement were first and foremost Israeli mouthpieces and that the podcast space in general wasn’t organic in terms of its ideas and has become captured by advertising and donor agendas.
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
1175 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:54 pm to
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, Rabbi

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trusted adviser


Nope
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:56 pm to
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the conservative movement were first and foremost Israeli mouthpieces and that the podcast space in general wasn’t organic in terms of its ideas and has become captured by advertising and donor agendas.


Is it possible that the voices in opposition to Israel influence are similarly motivated and captured?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:57 pm to
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Notice that they want the focus to be on the circumstances of the leak rather than the content of the text messages which clearly show Charlie becoming disillusioned with the Zionist lobby.


Let’s say Charlie was going to radically change his stance on Israel. What does that mean?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23369 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:57 pm to
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Is it possible that the voices in opposition to Israel influence are similarly motivated and captured?

I’m open to that and really don’t want any foreign nations impacting our domestic political discourse.

The only evidence I’ve ever seen is a $100k check to Tucker for travel related to a podcast interview which he submitted via FARA.

Do you have other evidence to be considered?
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 4:02 pm
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:01 pm to
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You misspelled traitorous piece of shite. But that's okay.


Nahh, he spelled patriot correctly.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38016 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:05 pm to
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Kirk reportedly wrote that he had lost a $2 million-per-year Jewish donor after refusing to cancel Tucker Carlson, added that “Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes,” and considered inviting Candace Owens as a form of pushback while contemplating stepping back from the pro-Israel cause.

This is wild. The psyop is so complete and complex that there's literally someone in every corner trying to convince us that every possible scenario imaginable is the truth.

Kent is a good dude. Kent is a traitor. Candace is "only asking the hard questions". Candace is a lunatic. Tucker is a NeoCon.Tucker is a patriot. Tucker is a converted muslim and antisemitic. Israel killed Charlie. Some dude with a tranny lover killed Charlie. Candace's husband had Charlie killed. Charlie isn't dead, he's in Tel Aviv with Jeff Epstein.

Ok, so there's a true scenario somewhere mixed in to all this chatter, but we can't ever know it because there are too many scenarios that people already believe and no one with a functional brain trusts anything that the government tells us. This is the pinnacle of mass formation hypnosis. Operation Mockingbird at its pinnacle.



Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:06 pm to
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Giving them to Joe Kent in the first place was completely unnecessary. The TP spokesman is dumb as hell too.


And I think the exact opposite. Makes me have more confidence in how genuine Kolvet is. Wasn’t so sure.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16791 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:07 pm to
If Kent received these texts as a part of a government investigation and then provided them to a podcaster, then I take back my defense of him relative to being an alleged leaker.

I do think Kent is bright and think he’s a patriot, but if he used his government position to receive and send communications derived solely because of his position in government in view of an investigation, then that’s a big problem and he should face consequences.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128843 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:08 pm to
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Do you have other evidence to be considered?


It was $200k. That buys a lot of plane tickets.

Omeed Malik invested $15M in the Tucker Carlson network.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15135 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:14 pm to
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Do you have other evidence to be considered?


Everything out of Tucker’s mouth the past 12-18 months.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23369 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:01 pm to
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Everything out of Tucker’s mouth the past 12-18 months.

The fact that you don’t like his messaging doesn’t prove that he’s being paid to say it.

That argument is as substantive as a leftist screaming fascist at everything they don’t like.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5127 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:07 pm to
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So you believe Erica and Israel murdered Charlie?

Because that's what Candace is saying.


You left out that Erika was also getting girls for Epstein.

Candace has roped in some real winners with her craziness

Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16315 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:33 pm to
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A rabbi


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a trusted adviser to Kirk on Israel-related issues


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claimed


LOL the idiots will fall for it, because it fits the narrative they want to believe. Typical Israeli misinformation and social manipulation.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23369 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:44 pm to
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It was $200k. That buys a lot of plane tickets.

I haven’t seen proof of that number do you have a link?
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Omeed Malik invested $15M in the Tucker Carlson network.

From what I read DJT Jr did too, are there ties to Qatar with Malik?
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