re: Jeff Landry moves to take over New Orleans homeless services

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Did she belittle homeless people while depending on others to pay for her housing? If she did, that's mighty hypocritical.

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Marriages of coequals don’t quibble about who provided or depends on who for what needs. You seem to think financial is the only way to contribute to a household or have opinions on societal derelicts.

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No, I think that someone who only has housing because another adult provides it for her isn’t in a position to criticize people who don’t have housing because other adults don’t provide it for them

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You paint with a very broad brush and seem to assume that a stay at home mom/wife is incapable of finding housing without being married or having a parent provide for them.

I am reminded of something Mark Twain said to paraphrase “never argue with a fool a passer by may may not be able to tell who is who”

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I'm particularly interested in your answer to the first two as I get the impression that untreated drug addiction and mental illness are at the root of what most people consider the homeless "problem."

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I will not act as though I have a solution or can come up with a realistic, viable solution at this moment.

I've seen Permanent Supportive Housing be successful. Of course, I have an extremely limited, niche familiarity with homelessness. Basically every homeless person I interact with regularly are coming out of incarceration. There are two individuals that I've gotten to know fairly well. One has mental illness. He was placed in Permanent Supportive Housing. Someone checks on him and ensures he takes his medication. He is able to hold down a job and contribute to society in meaningful ways.

The other homeless person I know is a drug addict in recovery. He has been "traveling" for about 15 years. He is clean and actually converted to Catholicism recently. He's surprisingly and refreshingly wholesome (especially for someone with face tattoos). He stays in shelters in the city. I actually asked him yesterday if he views New Orleans as home and he said he plans to leave when he gets off paper. He has a legal side hustle that he earns some money through. He doesn't panhandle or bother people. I don't think there really is anything to solve for his situation.

You are such a nasty bitch

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This depends on if you think human dignity is conditional or intrinsic. What is your take?

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When I was younger and more idealistic I would have said it is intrinsic, but I’ve seen too many people forfeit their own dignity to speak in absolutes. I’m just not sure “intrinsic” and “conditional” are the only options - or even the correct options - to be asking about, but the fact that you simplify the problem down to a simplistic binary choice says a lot.

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Consequences of homelessness is interesting phrasing. Can specify which consequences?

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Now you're just being intentionally obtuse - people living on the street in public spaces doesn’t just impact the homeless person. The more jarring examples are human waste and drug paraphanalia in sidewalks, having to step over zombified people sprawled out in the doorway to a public building and being screamed at by a mentally ill person. Then there’s the inevitable crime that follows all of this.

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If approved by the Department of Housing and Urban Development

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aint no if, it'll definitely get appoved since Landry is so close with Trump, im sure Nola will sure in some obscure court where a Biden/Obama judge will try and stop it though.... way too much skimming going on to let this get out of their hands.

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It’s disgusting that you would equate the unborn to a homeless person, but you do you.

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Do you believe God created babies in his image and likeness? At what point did God withdraw his image and likeness from the homeless person? At what point did God say “hey person without shelter - you are no longer human. You no longer count as one of my children.” ?

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I didn’t mention worth, I noted dignity (self worth).

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human dignity is worth. You’re playing semantics games because you realize what you’re claiming is absurd and atheistic.

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You have a weird interpretation of what it means to be Catholic if you truly believe that those are bad things.

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you are actually lecturing me about my beliefs after denying the existence of human dignity.

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When I was younger and more idealistic I would have said it is intrinsic

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Condescension noted. Unless you’re complimenting my youth?

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I’m just not sure “intrinsic” and “conditional” are the only options - or even the correct options - to be asking about, but the fact that you simplify the problem down to a simplistic binary choice says a lot.

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What other options would there be? I don’t view human dignity as a problem. Maybe the denial of the existence of human dignity is a problem. Or the problem might be that it’s inconvenient and/or uncomfortable to value the humanity of people with which we disagree, or whose choices or circumstances don’t align with our own. You said my believing people either possess human dignity or they don’t says a lot— what does that say? It reads like an intended jab but I don’t even know what the implied insult would be.

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Now you're just being intentionally obtuse - people living on the street in public spaces doesn’t just impact the homeless person. The more jarring examples are human waste and drug paraphanalia in sidewalks, having to step over zombified people sprawled out in the doorway to a public building and being screamed at by a mentally ill person. Then there’s the inevitable crime that follows all of this.

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Not being intentionally obtuse. When I think about the consequences of homelessness, I think about when my kids asked me why people go camping in the city after the saw a bunch of tents under the Claiborne overpass when we were on our way to church years ago. Or when they ask me why someone is sleeping outside on the street.

You’re describing the consequences of mental illness and drug addiction, not homelessness.

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You’re describing the consequences of mental illness and drug addiction, not homelessness.

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Fair point, but what do you think a ven diagram of drug addiction, mental illness and homelessness would look like?