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re: Jack Smith says US Presidents HAVE NO 1st Amendment rights to allege election fraud!!

Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:04 am to
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19501 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:04 am to
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What conceivable relevance do you see in this point, other than meaningless whataboutism?
in this case the relevance is plain. When you have mirror image claims and actions but one is fraud and can be punished and the other is a constitutionally guaranteed right based on your political party we have a major issue.

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(I have no idea who Stacey Abrahams might be) is not a fraudster?

And if you are pointing at my spelling as way to avoid the topic, we see you and your disingenuousness. What is this whataboutism you speak of? That isn't a real thing. I think you made that word up; it is fraudulent for you to assign something to me that you made up. You should be prosecuted and punished criminally for such.

This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 11:07 am
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6164 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:04 am to
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How is that relevant to this thread?

The value of truth and facts do not stop at Jack Smith and his lawfare against OMB.
The lack of truth and facts in all of the lawfare against OMB is relevant to a fair judiciary.

Didn't you swear an oath to protect the innocent, or is that only for the accused that you support and ally with?
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12636 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:06 am to
SlowFlowPrevaricator…
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
23929 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:27 am to
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RelentlessAnalysis


So you’re telling us that you’re such a f*cking retard that you honestly believe that Beyond-F*cking-Corrupt Joe Biden got 81 million votes? Your black f*cking Jesus maxed out at 67 million votes but you sincerely believe that Dementia Joe got 81 million fricking votes while he literally slept in his basement throughout the election.

And you’d have to also believe that it was just a coincidence that put a first time in presidential election history all of those swing states in Democrat, strongholds just happened to stop counting ballots in the middle of the night and kick out Republican pole watchers - when Trump was WAY ahead - only then to find millions of votes, almost all going the way of Dementia Joe.

No one could possibly be THAT F*CKING STUPID.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87749 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:29 am to
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And you’d have to also believe that it was just a coincidence that put a first time in presidential election history all of those swing states in Democrat, strongholds just happened to stop counting ballots in the middle of the night and kick out Republican pole watchers - when Trump was WAY ahead - only then to find millions of votes, almost all going the way of Dementia Joe.


The Usual Suspects will be along shortly to tell you that never happened.

“dOn’T bElIeVe YoUr LyInG eYeS.”
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:30 am to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22861 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:39 am to
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"fraud is not protected by the first amendment"

Who was convicted of fraud?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7943 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:40 am to
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We didn't get that far in the litigation.


Question - has Jack Smith integrity or honesty ever been in question in a court before???

Also - am I the only one that think RA is another sfp alter ? Stylistically identical and back each other up in every op??
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 11:46 am
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
18151 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:42 am to
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We didn't get that far in the litigation. n.


No wonder you are so energized and motivated herein. Either you have a mouse in your pocket or you are on Team Jack Smith. If you are on Jack's team, please let him know he is a piss poor excuse for a lawyer and he knows it.

Jack Smith cases always get overturned. ALWAYS!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467548 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:59 am to
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Like clockwork


Yes I have a think for addressing dishonest content creators.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467548 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:01 pm to
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another sfp alter


There are no SFP alters
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
18151 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:07 pm to
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Also - am I the only one that think RA is another sfp alter ? Stylistically identical and back each other up in every op??


Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5666 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:13 pm to
RA has more of a aggiehank style. Though I believe SFP and Hank are brothers from another mother, cousins, butt frick buddies, etc..
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57268 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:14 pm to
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A statement made with know falsity is not protected by the First Amendment


Oh boy. MSM about to get sued. A lot.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57268 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:17 pm to
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So, your position is that it is perfectly acceptable for to make such knowingly-false statements?


Without admitting this is what happened. Are you stating that knowingly making false statements to the public is a crime?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85454 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:19 pm to
Weird a fricking alter like RA yammering about knowingly false statements.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2420 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:28 pm to
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quote:

(I have no idea who Stacey Abrahams might be) is not a fraudster?
And if you are pointing at my spelling as way to avoid the topic, we see you and your disingenuousness.
Stacey versus Stacy or Staci is "spelling."

Abrams vs Abrahams indicates that you don't even know the players' names.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1989 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:50 pm to
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The case was about actions he may or may not have engaged in to try and prove the point.


That is not what Jack Smith said in the video. He said the statements themselves are illegal conduct when they interfere with a lawful government function. He is not talking about actions - he is talking about speech.

So, if a person writes in the New York Times "the Presidential election was rife with fraud and the President of the Senate should not approve the Electoral College results." this person does so "knowing" that there was no fraud and with the intent to influence the President of he Senate to do something in his official capacity then a Prosecutor has discretion to file charges on that quoted statement alone.

I think that is very dangerous and is a direct attack on free speech.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87749 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:54 pm to
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Also - am I the only one that think RA is another sfp alter ?


RelentlesslyHank is…well, Hank.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57015 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:55 pm to
That is what he said, slowmo. What he means, and you know this, is that smith lies when he says “fraud is not protected” because he’s implying that Trump committed fraud when there is not an ounce of proof that he did. So, using context clues you silly son of a bitch, he is implying that anything Trump says makes him liable because the left is unhinged, and by relation, so are you.

I don’t know how you don’t get tired of these silly “well actually” and refuse to use your brain. Or is it willfully ignorance because you also suffer from TDS?

Happy New Year!
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 12:55 pm
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