re: I've been trying to figure out why immigration is such a big deal

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I don't think it's white supremacy. It's more like ethnic preservation

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Tomato, tomahto.






It is curious though that your question was about immigration, and the majority of the posts only addressed illegal immigration.

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The Spleen

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So, were a number of democrats in the 1990s white supremacists?

Wasn't your dad in a union (maybe I am mistaking you for another bama poster). The son of a union guy should know that unions historically have been AGAINST immigration. That changed around 20 years ago when manufacturing unions collapses and the SEIU took control.

I posted this yesterday, care to explain it?

It's harry reid circa 1993.

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“Our federal wallet is stretched to the limit by illegal aliens getting welfare, food stamps, medical care and other benefits often without paying any taxes. Safeguards like welfare and free medical care are in place to boost Americans in need of short-term assistance. These programs were not meant to entice freeloaders and scam artists from around the world,” Reid said.
The Nevada Democrat went on to say, “If making it easy to be an illegal alien is not enough, how about offering a reward for being an illegal immigrant? No sane country would do that, right? Guess again. If you break our laws by entering this country without permission and give birth to a child, we reward that child with U.S. citizenship and guarantee full access to all public and social services this society provides. And that is a lot of services. Is it any wonder that two-thirds of the babies born at taxpayer expense in county-run hospitals in Los Angeles are born to illegal alien mothers?”

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First off, the issue has never been IMMIGRATION. It's ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION that is the issue. I can't, for the life of me, understand how liberals get the two confused. Being against illegal immigration does not equal being against immigration as whole. That's the first talking point that needs to be shot down.

Second, the hispanic population includes, if we use a little logic, individuals who are here illegally. When the surveyor calls, no person is going to admit to being in the country illegally. So there's that.

Third, the issue is, as stated above, illegal immigration because it skews the economic stability of the country. For example, illegals often receive medicaid, social security checks, welfare benefits and/food stamps, education, WIC, and a host of other federal and state run benefits WITHOUT PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM. Sure, they pay sales taxes to help support the state and local governments when they purchase items from retail stores, but on programs that operate off of income deductions and/or taxes, they take and do not put in. That is the problem with illegal immigration. There's no white supremacist conspiracy, no racism, no bigotry, no (insert liberal talking point) about it. It's simple economics.

So ask yourself, is it really just to rob Peter, the tax paying citizen, to pay Juan, the illegal with 10 "dreamers" in tow?

Also, just as a side note, the hispanic population, even legals, is bound to grow at a faster rate than others given that a massive majority of hispanics are straight line catholics that don't believe in contraceptives.

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Because the majority of Whites dont rely on the Federal Government to subsidize their family units.

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disagree

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I've been trying to figure out why immigration is such a big deal

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It isn't. Illegal immigration is a big deal. People accessing services they aren't paying for is a big deal. Demanding entitlements one isn't entitled to is a big deal.

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I don't think it's white supremacy. It's more like ethnic preservation.

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This may sound crazy to some people,but the way I see it,it's not so much about about this,melding of the races is probably inevitable.
I see it as preservation of The Country, I don't know why I should care, I will probably be dead anyway,but at some point,if we continue to allow illegal immigration at the current rate,The Nation and culture are going to be predominantly Catholic.
I don't care from a religious perspective,but most predominantly Catholic Countries are the most corrupt on Earth,and mostly shitholes. It would soon derail This Nation from the vision on which it was founded.
The economic reasons are also very important.

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If you read back through this thread, it is conservatives that are conflating the two. The original post only asks about immigration, and most of the responses talk about illegal immigration.

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I would argue that the intent of the OP (and the attached article) is to push a narrative that the "dreamers" and their families are indeed immigrants. All while omitting the fact that they are illegal. Especially given that there is a direct reference to hispanics, which the vast majority of illegal immigrants happen to be.

Also, as I pointed out, the percentage of hispanics in the population is going to be skewed by illegal immigration given that no respondent to a survey is going to admit to being in the country illegally.

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So white supremacy. Got it.

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Possibly one of the dumbest sentiments I’ve ever read. Why is it that whites are the only people in the world that cannot be proud of their heritage? Of course there are some who take that to the extreme (e.g. white supremacy), but that requires a healthy dose of ethnocentrism.

Preferring your own culture to another does not entail that you believe your culture is superior. It’s only natural to prefer the culture you were raised in to another.

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Possibly one of the dumbest sentiments I’ve ever read. Why is it that whites are the only people in the world that cannot be proud of their heritage?

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You say my comment is dumb, and follow it up with a question that my post did not even in the slightest bit imply.

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