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re: It's happening. Washington is the first state to terminate a public employee pension plan!
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:21 pm to beaux duke
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:21 pm to beaux duke
Well that’s just not true but like so many here you just make shite up.
Loon
Loon
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:27 pm to roadGator
15 year member of a colorado mountain rescue team. all volunteer. 400+ mission responses
you?
i'd post the specifics but some a-hole from here would dox me so no thanks
you?
i'd post the specifics but some a-hole from here would dox me so no thanks
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:31 pm to beaux duke
I didn’t ask you to post shite.
I don’t care who you are.
I just pointed out that you just make shite up.
I don’t care who you are.
I just pointed out that you just make shite up.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:32 pm to roadGator
quote:
I just pointed out that you just make shite up.
except you didn't
you made that up
feel free to point out what i made up
spoiler - you won't
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:34 pm to beaux duke
Are you drinking too much pink wine?
You made this up whole cloth.
So I most certainly pointed it out that you did that.
You don’t know shite about me or anyone else here. Super smart radical leftists are my favorite.
You made this up whole cloth.
quote:
what do you do to give back? hint - nothing
So I most certainly pointed it out that you did that.
You don’t know shite about me or anyone else here. Super smart radical leftists are my favorite.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:35 pm to Timeoday
This is where federal intervention is required....for the people, by the people!
This is part of the bigger LEFT plan to take control of the weak population....
The west coast
This is part of the bigger LEFT plan to take control of the weak population....
The west coast
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:36 pm to roadGator
where did you point out me making shite up?
are you intoxicated?
i've been sober for years
you seem unhinged
are you intoxicated?
i've been sober for years
you seem unhinged
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:36 pm to beaux duke
He’s going to take out his frustration on you because of the Massie thread
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:39 pm to beaux duke
quote:
Well that’s just not true but like so many here you just make shite up.
Pointed out. Weirdo.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:42 pm to Timeoday
“They’d never take my 401k, conspiracy theorist!”
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:43 pm to Timeoday
Am I reading it correctly that just took the retirement from what I would assume is hundreds of thousands of retires?
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:44 pm to DeBoar
Now you two make a cute couple.
A radical leftist and a Trump worshipper.
Takes all kinds.
A radical leftist and a Trump worshipper.
Takes all kinds.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:49 pm to DeBoar
quote:
He’s going to take out his frustration on you because of the Massie thread
i haven't commented in any massie thread
dude is just a loon
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:53 pm to Timeoday
It sounds like current pensioners will still get their benefits but that’s only if they don’t run out of money.
I’m as conservative as anyone but a deal is a deal and one of the perks of making shite for money as an govt worker under those plans was the promise of a pension.
I hope the blue collar Dems that still think their party represents them are taking notice. These progressive crazies wil rob every one of us if given the chance.
I’m as conservative as anyone but a deal is a deal and one of the perks of making shite for money as an govt worker under those plans was the promise of a pension.
I hope the blue collar Dems that still think their party represents them are taking notice. These progressive crazies wil rob every one of us if given the chance.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 9:55 pm to GREENHEAD22
quote:
Am I reading it correctly that just took the retirement from what I would assume is hundreds of thousands of retires?
No. They took nothing. The state is obligated to pay those pensions whether the plan is 200% funded or unfunded.
This happens to be the only overfunded retirement plan in the universe and it’s apparently making people crazy.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 10:48 pm to DeBoar
Someone else loved that emoticon when frustrated.
So weird.
So weird.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:25 am to Timeoday
Democrat rule, wonder how many liberals this affects dems dont give a shite about their foot soldiers either, when the left finally understands this maybe we can get the country back on track to be great again
Posted on 5/7/26 at 4:58 am to wfallstiger
quote:
You wish to change course, fine, but not by dumping current beneficiaries. You caused this problem, find another way to fix your mess
That's the problem. There is no other way. They've built a house if cards and are running out of tax revenue to keep it propped up.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 5:41 am to Victor R Franko
quote:I don't think most people in the thread did, and I don't think most people in this thread understand how defined benefit pension plans work.
I admit I didn't read the link.
This plan was over funded, i.e. it had more assets in it than it needed to pay the benefits promised to workers covered by the plan. According to Grok, this plan pays benefits to employees hired before 1977. There are about 5 people still accruing benefits, and about 6,000 retirees covered by this plan. The state terminated it so they could blow the surplus on something else. All members in the plan will receive the benefits they were promised. This used to happen in the private sector all the time. One company would take over another, sometimes even a shite business, because it had an overfunded pension and the acquiring company could keep the surplus. This is why Gekko wanted to buy Blue Star airlines in the movie Wall Street.
If you're conservative you should want the government to terminate an overfunded plan. Otherwise, you've got a chunk of money, much of which was funded by taxpayers, just sitting there. At some point the last beneficiary dies and there's a pile of money left over. Why not use that money for something else and give taxpayers a small break? I'm sure Washington will blow it on something stupid, but still, in theory, it's the right thing to do.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 5:55 am
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