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re: It's happening. Washington is the first state to terminate a public employee pension plan!

Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:49 pm to
So no fiduciary responsibility is at stake as long as it is "over-funded". What a concept.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22751 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:50 pm to
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It’s for retirees so no one is accruing additional benefits and no one will lose any benefits, right?

Why not increase payouts for the pensioners that funded the program? Seems to me they're the ones entitled to it before state government is.

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I don’t think this is overly concerning.

Not exactly the same but not that far off, either - how'd we all feel if fedgov decided to cap returns on our IRAs/401Ks at 12% per year, and take "windfall earnings" to fund more of its shite?
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11952 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:54 pm to
New York will follow suit. Mamdani has already threatened it.
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2975 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:56 pm to
I hope long term this means less people work for the government and it starts collapsing.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5173 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:03 pm to
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Not exactly the same but not that far off, either - how'd we all feel if fedgov decided to cap returns on our IRAs/401Ks at 12% per year, and take "windfall earnings" to fund more of its shite?


That’s the explicit difference between defined benefit vs defined contribution. Not gonna lie, it would be pretty funny to see heads explode if they decided, well, we did so much better than expected managing the retirement plan that we’ll double the firefighters pension payments.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
32061 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:06 pm to
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sacrificed my body and a good chunk of my life for our state, they committed to providing a benefit for me and raided it.


Much like every other mother fricker that doesn’t have a pension but Social Security. Sorry sucker. Don’t let the government be a custodian of your money. They will steal it.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18517 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:10 pm to
How dare you use math and reason
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23163 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:18 pm to
Do not get me wrong. It’s difficult to sympathize with public employees that retires at 50 years old and 100% of the average of their last 3 years pay fully vested after 5 years!!

And 100% medical and dental for life, free of charge.

Some of those major university head coaches in Washington and their lineage are set for life!!
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6308 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:20 pm to
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It’s difficult to sympathize with public employees that retires at 50 years old and 100% of the average of their last 3 years pay fully vested after 5 years!


None of this is true, at least in Louisiana. Actually extremely far from the truth

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And 100% medical and dental for life, free of charge.


I’m retired fire and pay $1600 a month for medical and dental. That’s with high deductible, dental insurance hardly covers anything, and no hsa

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Some of those major university head coaches in Washington and their lineage are set for life!!


Oh, well maybe so, carry on
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13053 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:20 pm to
Does anyone really expect anything different from grifter pinkos?…
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23163 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:25 pm to
In Washington, state and LEOFF 1 retirement eligibility ended in October 1977, which meant you had to be hired before that date but could retire at 50 with 5 years of service. That is a fact.

Your retirement is based upon the income you earned in your final 3 years. That is a fact.

We are talking about Washington, not Louisiana. That is a fact!!

Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5173 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:28 pm to
You said 100% the first time. What happened to that?

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50 years old and 100% of the average of their last 3 years pay fully vested after 5 years!
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6308 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:29 pm to
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In Washington, state and LEOFF 1 retirement eligibility ended in October 1977, which meant you had to be hired before that date but could retire at 50 with 5 years of service. That is a fact.


You stated 100% which is not a fact. They had to wait till 50 to receive it. So if you worked 5 years, they got 10% of their highest 3 years but had to wait till 50 to get it.

Eta: They were vested at 5 years. Louisiana you are vested at 12. So if you retired at 12 years, you get 40% of your highest 3 years at the age of 50.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23163 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:34 pm to
Check it out. It is a crazy world out there for public employees.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26512 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:34 pm to
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While the bill maintains benefit continuity for members,


Until they blow the "surplus" they just stole and have to cut benefits.
Posted by Archives
Member since Mar 2026
312 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:35 pm to
The inlaws have been collecting a pension for 25 years now.
Basically the State has been paying them for 50 years and counting for about 25 years worth of "work".
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6308 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:36 pm to
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Check it out. It is a c


Your post was false though, as I pointed out.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26512 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:38 pm to
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I do not care what is is funded at. A government should not have the right to raid a pension!!


If it was a private pension, the perps would go to jail for fraud.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23163 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:39 pm to
I meant 10% after 5 but regardless, LEOFF is a great plan.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23163 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:40 pm to
It was on 10% after 5.
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