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re: ‘It is full blown crisis already’ farmers say
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:23 pm to Seldom Seen
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:23 pm to Seldom Seen
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on Thursday revealed China made its biggest cancellation of pork orders since 2020, halting a shipment of 12,000 tons of pork.
1. Ok, then there will be a shortage in China
2. Surplus her. Prices about to be great for consumers
frick beef and pork for doubling prices during pandemic for NO reason
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:25 pm to SantaFe
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I know 4 sugar cane farmers in the Donaldsonville area. They are not hurtin'.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:31 pm to SantaFe
Cane farmers are not in the same board as the rest of us in ag.
They have niche market either their crop and can somewhat set their own prices.
As for my farm I hope to harvest most I can and then wait to see what market willl pay.
Yes I book ahead and take advtg of some diff marketing options but you can only book a percentage of what you think you can deliver
Currently for cotton and the grains it’s depressing situation.
Takes a bumper crop to pay bank back… not make money but to cover expenses
Most of you people have no clue what’s alll involved much less the value that American farmers brings to this country and world
They have niche market either their crop and can somewhat set their own prices.
As for my farm I hope to harvest most I can and then wait to see what market willl pay.
Yes I book ahead and take advtg of some diff marketing options but you can only book a percentage of what you think you can deliver
Currently for cotton and the grains it’s depressing situation.
Takes a bumper crop to pay bank back… not make money but to cover expenses
Most of you people have no clue what’s alll involved much less the value that American farmers brings to this country and world
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:32 pm to NC_Tigah
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How many pork producers (aka Hawg Fahmahs) do you know?
China owns 25% of the pigs in the US so they are hurting their own company
Maybe Smithfield will go under
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:32 pm to Seldom Seen
So cheap groceries?
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:33 pm to lake chuck fan
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No empty shelves around here!!
As long as the empty shelves stay in the West and up in the North East i really dont give a rats arse what happens to them.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:35 pm to Seldom Seen
i recently read that china has the largest pork farm and they supply something like 80% of the pork to the U.S.
but tariffs are hurting the pork industry? doubt.
but tariffs are hurting the pork industry? doubt.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:36 pm to R11
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Currently for cotton and the grains it’s depressing situation.
Takes a bumper crop to pay bank back… not make money but to cover expenses
yea but that wasn't caused by tariffs
It was caused by the whole American food system thats been bad for the American farmer for years but the govt gives us a little bit of money here and there so most stay in business and JD and the bank can get paid and Farm Bureau then pats themselves on the back
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:36 pm to Seldom Seen
I have an ag business - while I myself do not export I imagine almost all of the product I do sell is headed for China. I produce wild-simulated ginseng.
Won't know of the impact until late summer. If prices drop too much, I will just skip a year (I am lucky in that it was started as a side business) - it will only make the ginseng more desirable.
Won't know of the impact until late summer. If prices drop too much, I will just skip a year (I am lucky in that it was started as a side business) - it will only make the ginseng more desirable.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:36 pm to Seldom Seen
CNBC has been on a tear of stupid
Shocked you are posting their article
Shocked you are posting their article
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:36 pm to Seldom Seen
Muh farmers!
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:37 pm to Seldom Seen
How is this a political story? Shouldn’t this topic be on the money board?
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:37 pm to lake chuck fan
The problem is that they're dealing with highly perishable goods. If they lose the Chinese market (or other large markets) they have to immediately shift to another market. That could be domestic or export and it may mean lowering prices (possibly selling at a loss) just to move product and finding a way to ship those goods efficiently. Otherwise things rot and they're out all of their investment and then some.
As an FYI a lot of the news that I'm seeing happens to coincide with a presentation I was invited to by a supplier that was given by a professor at Harvard Business School (Willy Shih) in late March. If the scenarios he played out happen.. there will be some problems in the not-to-distant future. The CEOs meeting with Trump last week and talking about store shelves starting to empty gave extra weight to it too.
I'm not in a position to know how things will play out but there are warning signs all around (aside from price increases we're already seeing). The question in my mind is if the alarms being sounded are politically driven to harm the republicans, sincere, or a mix of both.
As an FYI a lot of the news that I'm seeing happens to coincide with a presentation I was invited to by a supplier that was given by a professor at Harvard Business School (Willy Shih) in late March. If the scenarios he played out happen.. there will be some problems in the not-to-distant future. The CEOs meeting with Trump last week and talking about store shelves starting to empty gave extra weight to it too.
I'm not in a position to know how things will play out but there are warning signs all around (aside from price increases we're already seeing). The question in my mind is if the alarms being sounded are politically driven to harm the republicans, sincere, or a mix of both.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:37 pm to Pezzo
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i recently read that china has the largest pork farm and they supply something like 80% of the pork to the U.S.
This is totally untrue
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:40 pm to Seldom Seen
Is there anyway for you to take a break like a week or two you are absolutely out of control
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:40 pm to Seldom Seen
They should learn to code.
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:42 pm to dafif
Yeah. We cant be having any posts that don’t make us giddy. What’s wrong with him?
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:42 pm to Figgy
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I'm not in a position to know how things will play out but there are warning signs all around (aside from price increases we're already seeing). The question in my mind is if the alarms being sounded are politically driven to harm the republicans, sincere, or a mix of both.
That is what I wonder too.
The CCP has most certainly infiltrated, to some degree, some of our domestic trade groups. Is this Agriculture Transport Coalition one of them?
Back in the summer of 2024 the head of the group apparently did not like the "China bashing" he saw in both parties:
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Protectionism is Increasing. Unfortunately for all of us who depend upon international trade for our living, including brokers, forwarders, NVO’s, protectionism is rampant and bipartisan. China bashing very apparent at the Republican and Democratic conventions. My take-away: The trade community needs to recognize the threat and mobilize to educate Congress and whomever the President will be.
LINK
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:44 pm to Seldom Seen
The trade war will likely prove to be a net negative for Americans
There is nothing pointing to any other scenario at this point
There is nothing pointing to any other scenario at this point
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:45 pm to roadGator
No but this isn’t the money board. This isn’t a political story.
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