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re: ‘It is full blown crisis already’ farmers say

Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:07 pm to
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OMG
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12,000 tons of pork

Canceled! A Seldom Seen existential crises!

According to the USDA, America produced 12.61 Million metric tons of pork in 2024.

Therefore China canceled about 0.0001, one thousandth of a percent!


Have you seen the high-rise hog farms they have built and are building in China? Quite literally, they are 20+ story hog farms with hundreds of thousands of pigs in one building. (seems like GREAT idea when for things like swine flu...)

China 26-story hog farms

They are also going around and smashing small farm operations like G-men smashing up stills. Can't have people getting all uppity and trying to feed their own family, now.

Can you imagine the stench? Can you imagine the sound? Can you imagine the effluent in the water supply? Yummy.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
10612 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:22 pm to
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Is this like how the markets were obviously heading for the worst April ever last Monday?


NASDAQ
April 1 17,449.89
April 28 17,336.13

S&P 500
April 1 5,633.07
April 28 5,528.75

DOW
April 1 41,989.96
April 28 40,227.36

So what happened dumbass, other than the swishes running the site anchoring your dumbass thread so that it cannot be pulled up to the top?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89756 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:25 pm to
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The global backlash to President Trump’s tariffs is punishing U.S. agriculture, especially a decline in Chinese buying of U.S. farm products.


Looks like they will have to lower their prices and sell more to us customers.


Too bad.
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3175 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 4:26 pm to
They need to chill out. Give those chongers a while to get hungry/hangry.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18518 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:33 pm to
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But muh tariffs. Commodities are just down due to oversupply and weaker demand.


Correct. Market sucks and inputs and expenses have done nothing but increase over the last three years due to inflation. Recipe for disaster.

Since tariffs stuff cotton actually increased from futures low of $0.62/lb to now at almost $0.68/lb. That really sucks, but illustrates it’s not the tariffs that are the problem.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10343 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:44 pm to
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So what happened dumbass


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Posted by RohanGonzales4/28/25 at 4:22 pm to RohanGonzales


I’d like to know that too. You responded to yourself, after all.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68809 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:56 pm to
The U.S., on balance, has a stronger economy than China, but with an unnecessary trade war, we’re taking an unnecessary risk. It’s nuts…
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3008 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 6:59 pm to
fricking welfare queens. Between subsidizing their losses and creating artificial market for ethanol, they should quit bitching about tariffs
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18518 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:06 pm to
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fricking welfare queens. Between subsidizing their losses and creating artificial market for ethanol, they should quit bitching about tariffs


Ridiculous. You folks don’t know shite and you’re as bad as the libs.
If we have to subsidy anything, how about the folks that provide us food? How about that?
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
9880 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:07 pm to
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The U.S., on balance, has a stronger economy than China, but with an unnecessary trade war, we’re taking an unnecessary risk. It’s nuts…


I understand what you say, but I guess my bigger picture viewpoint is, even if the situation presented itself someday where it was deemed a “necessary risk” (such as Taiwan), why have we allowed ourselves to reach a point where there’s any level of financial “risk” to consider when it comes to dealing with a gigantic communist country?

I can’t imagine us ever having put ourselves in such a situation with the old Soviet Union, at any time.

But because the CCP has smartly put a seemingly friendly “capitalist/business” mask on its face, we’ve been lulled into approaching them differently.

Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51403 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:08 pm to
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But because the CCP has smartly put a seemingly friendly “capitalist/business” mask on its face, we’ve been lulled into approaching them differently.

RINOs did this. RINOs and slick Willy.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10612 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:14 pm to
test

cannot post what I want to, so frick it
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 7:16 pm
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25227 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:15 pm to
in 6 months, the farmers will be rejoicing, book it.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46823 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:27 pm to
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No empty shelves around here!!


Here either. We should fill up on inexpensive gas and go drive around to see if we can find some empty shelves.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46823 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:34 pm to
Smithfield is the largest pork producer in the world. The Chinese bought them in 2013, making them one of the largest overseas owners of US farmland.
Posted by coldbeerfan
Orange Beach MAGA Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
1685 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:41 pm to
Piss on China and the farming hating progressives in this thread and our country. You can’t farm or ranch without those evil fossil fuels.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
15744 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:42 pm to
I have a healthy respect for farmers/ranchers but they can whine with teachers and nurses all day, any day
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:44 pm to
They can and do but subsidies come with strings attached that most small farms aren’t large enough to produce a tangible amount. Meaning 25 acres of corn for ethanol isn’t enough to waste the equipment on but 500 or 1000 acres is
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102661 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 7:45 pm to
Soybean lobby has been lobbying the govt to increase the amount of soy oil used in biodiesel production in order to increase demand for soybeans. Two new crush mills are coming online in the Midwest

I hope it happens. Because increased crush to get soy oil means it creates a byproduct of soybean meal. Soybean meal is used to make cattle, poultry, and catfish feed. There is already a glut of meal on the market and this will make it worse, The result? Very cheap soybean meal meaning cheap feed meaning deltaland rakes in the money when fish prices are about to go up due to a shortage of catfish in a few months due to a bad hatch industry wide last spring. The crush mills are begging the feed mills to take meal, even if they have to hold it on site on rail car due to storage bins being full. But we aren’t taking any more than necessary to fill feed orders. Drive that price into the ground
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10612 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 8:01 pm to
Gordon Chang's thoughts

I see this man talking a lot about China for years, wonder what some of the rest of you think of him.

Has China really stopped collecting tariffs on some "important" goods? That would be something Trump may be keeping quiet while negotiating and heaven knows our limp dick media wouldn't report it if it is happening.
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