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Posted on 8/24/24 at 7:51 am to Hateradedrink
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Interesting commentary from the “all taxes are bad and that’s why I support tax free tips” crowd
Lazy commentary from you.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 7:52 am to OceanMan
About the level of effort necessary to be competitive here
Posted on 8/24/24 at 8:06 am to Saunson69
Until Trump's tax cut jacked up the standard deduction, I had itemized for the 20 years prior. I doubt seriously it's impacted you that significantly and easily 98% would still.take the standard deduction.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 8:14 am to NC_Tigah
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Additionally though, every 2 years eligibility renews for a $500K home sale tax exclusion on profits. Realistically the only way one generates a (second) $500K profit over a 2-yr window is to own a second hom
Primary residence, that you occupy 2 of the last 5 years. It’s a capital gain exclusion, and there are exemptions from the 2 year rule that realistically, only a normal person would have (medical issues, new job, even crime, it’s subject).
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You're correct of course, there really is no justification for the tax break differential.
I already provided one, one is in the itemized category and the other isn’t. If you actually follow the max $750k in loan proceeds, it hasn’t been all that helpful in getting over the standard with rates the way they have been (but that’s obviously changing).
It seems silly to discuss the fairness of the tax code, in terms of deductions, by bringing up the only deductions available to individuals
Op, you want to write off student loan interest? Start a business, refi the student loan with a business loan. Now there is an entire chapter in the limitation of that interest, but at least we are now talking about how high earners actually save on taxes (deductions that aren’t on a 1040).
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:22 am to Saunson69
The government really should incentivize student loan payoffs through tax breaks since they are solely responsible for pushing up tuition by providing stupid amounts of money through student loans.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:33 am to Goforit
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Quickly pay off your student loan and you want owe much interest.
You probably should have taken out a student loan to study some remedial English and Econ at your local CC.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:35 am to Saunson69
There seems to be other problems in your financial accountability you should
focus on.
If you are itemizing deductions instead of taking the standard deduction, then it seems like you have the financial means to pay off $85k student debt so you do not have the interest problem. ??
focus on.
If you are itemizing deductions instead of taking the standard deduction, then it seems like you have the financial means to pay off $85k student debt so you do not have the interest problem. ??
Posted on 8/24/24 at 11:56 am to OceanMan
quote:I'm keenly aware. I enjoyed the full benefit over the past 2 1/2 years. That does not make it fair.
Primary residence, that you occupy 2 of the last 5 years. It’s a capital gain exclusion
quote:Or if he has a large enough portfolio, he could simply borrow against it to pay off his loan, then deduct interest as a capital expense.
how high earners actually save on taxes
Now then, regarding the OP, do you honestly believe he or other similar student loan holders have those sort of resources, or the ability to start (with the burden of existing loans) a business with the collateral capacity you describe?
This post was edited on 8/24/24 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 8/24/24 at 12:26 pm to Saunson69
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Neither party is going to fix the system that screws you, so long as it benefits them, which it does because they cater to their donors.
This! 100%
Life is not fair. More importantly the tax system is not fair. Quit whining! Get over it! Move forward with your life.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 12:36 pm to Saunson69
It isn’t the point of your post, but I make in the mid 200s and ain’t no way I could buy a $750K home.
I mean, maybe if I were single… but not with two kids and a wife and maxing out 401K contributions, saving a little, and the like.
I mean, maybe if I were single… but not with two kids and a wife and maxing out 401K contributions, saving a little, and the like.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 12:50 pm to Upperaltiger06
Student loans are the result of people spending the loans on degrees that are basically worthless in money earned. Tough lesson !
Posted on 8/24/24 at 12:55 pm to Old1937
quote:Interesting premise. FWIW, I spent my student loans on LSU Med School. The result was a degree which was far from "worthless."
Student loans are the result of people spending the loans on degrees that are basically worthless
Posted on 8/24/24 at 12:56 pm to Saunson69
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That is absurd and completely unfair
But not as unfair as people who never went to college having to pay for losers that went to college for a bullshite degree that is worthless in the workforce.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 12:57 pm to NC_Tigah
The real simple way to fix education costs is charge schools for non-Pslf based forgiveness (the 20/25 year IDR forgiveness).
If you graduate people that can’t pay off their loans in 20 years, you’re not doing society a service.
If you graduate people that can’t pay off their loans in 20 years, you’re not doing society a service.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 1:04 pm to NC_Tigah
Then you should have no problem paying them back, no problem.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 1:06 pm to Saunson69
Don't take loans out for shite you can't afford, dumbass.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 1:13 pm to NC_Tigah
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Or if he has a large enough portfolio, he could simply borrow against it to pay off his loan, then deduct interest as a capital loss.
Margin interest is not a capital loss. It's only deductible to the extent you have interest, dividends, and capital gains. It's also an itemized deduction that does nothing for you if you have no other deductions such as a mortgage interest, charitable donos, and SALT. This assumes your loan is from a passive stock portfolio you have.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:59 pm to jclem11
quote:Apples and oranges. This is not something requiring in the weeds analysis. The OP made an observation. There was some "yeah, but ...." financial mumbo jumbo in response.
Margin interest is not a capital loss. It's only deductible to the extent you have interest, dividends, and capital gains.
The point is, interest on student loans is not deductible. Interest on money borrowed against a portfolio is deductible as a capital expense.
But yeah, in the unique instance of declared losses equaling/exceeding gains, then deduction of capital expense is moot .... as likely is the employment status of the responsible investment advisor(s).
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