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re: Is there anything more "Deep State" than US military conflict with Iran?
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:"You" as in the collective "you"?
Illustrative of the point at hand. You're creating your own definitions to circumvent facts you don't like. As a lawyer once said, "facts are stubborn things."
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You have this backwards and I already covered this
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
So why did you vote for a Deep state actor?
Or is RFK JR not part of this deep state regime?
Or is RFK JR not part of this deep state regime?
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
Oh so they haven’t invaded other countries but their endless funding of terrorist attacks is ok? I don’t even think you know the point you are trying to make lol
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Wonder what the price tag for rebuilding Iran and Ukraine will cost the US taxpayer...
I do wonder but there's frick all I can do about it if it happens.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So, given all of this, how can people who oppose the "Deep State" so blindly fall into an obvious "Deep State"-driven conflict?
What are citizens supposed to do when President Carter allowed Ali Khamenei to overthrow the Gov't. and take charge.
Obama gives him Pallets of dollars.
Biden does the same
All those were Deeeeep State. actions leading to a potential nuclear bomb..
Are you OK with our present leaders doing nothing?
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Russia is the actor who supports Iran to let them act crazy. The primary reason the Iranian regime hasn't been toppled since the 90s is Russia (and their nukes).
ISo Obama and Biden's actions don't matter?
The deep state doesn't give a damn as long as the Arms dealers keep getting paid.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Deep state would be the support of Iranian terrorist regime.
The longer Iran is allowed to stick around with its current leadership, the longer terrorists get funding and cause problems
The longer Iran is allowed to stick around with its current leadership, the longer terrorists get funding and cause problems
Posted on 6/20/25 at 5:37 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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The guy who refuses to admit globalism exists now wants to lecture us on what is globalist. This is why you are a joke.
The fact that you typed this out and thought you had some gotcha, without realizing the larger point, is...amazing.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 5:37 pm to omegaman66
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Yes. Allowing them to continue to run terrorist operations via Hamas and Yemen without suffering any consequences.
What does this have to do with Western and Israeli intel operations and bureaucracies?
Sounds like you're changing what "Deep State" means to fit your argument/agenda
Posted on 6/20/25 at 5:38 pm to NC_Tigah
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"You" as in the collective "you"?
Already covered.
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Other people potentially misusing words doesn't justify your misuse of words
That "your" above is for you.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 5:39 pm to dgnx6
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So why did you vote for a Deep state actor?
Who I voted for is literally irrelevant, as I specifically voted for an outrageous option intentionally, as it was a protest vote.
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Or is RFK JR not part of this deep state regime?
Who knows. The definition keeps changing.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 5:39 pm to Arkaea79
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Deep state would be the support of Iranian terrorist regime.
Example of the changing definition/moving goalposts. Perfect timing.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 5:40 pm to Rip Torn
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Oh so they haven’t invaded other countries but their endless funding of terrorist attacks is ok?
Who said it was OK, Cathy Newman?
Posted on 6/20/25 at 5:43 pm to Gus007
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What are citizens supposed to do when President Carter allowed Ali Khamenei to overthrow the Gov't
There was nothing we could do to stop that organic revolution to thwart the puppet installed by the "Deep State".
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Russia is the actor who supports Iran to let them act crazy. The primary reason the Iranian regime hasn't been toppled since the 90s is Russia (and their nukes).
2 classical foils for the "Deep State"
Hence why the "Deep State" has been so hyper focused on toppling Iran since 1979.
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The deep state doesn't give a damn as long as the Arms dealers keep getting paid.
That's a backbone of teh overall theory, yes, which is weird how so many who claim to oppose the "Deep State" are now trying to get those arms dealer paid
Posted on 6/20/25 at 5:59 pm to AUauditor
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All that to say, we have a dog in the fight when it comes to a nuclear-owning Iran; Russia/Ukraine is not our fight.
Of course you say it isn't our fight when Russia can shoot nukes at us like we can at them.
Iran can't.
Of course you would say that.
My point is if China invades Taiwan like they will probably do in the next few years. Will we send our military to bomb them? Of course not. We will try the diplomatic approach.
Now if Iran invaded someone, a country without nukes. I bet we bomb them.
Having nukes is a deterrent from countries attacking you.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 5:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Y'all STFO. you've lost all credibility on foreign affairs.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:40 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I legit don’t understand why we have to fix some purported mess on the other side of the world.
As SCLibertarian noted above, you know why and you know who.
Justin Raimondo wrote the following piece about how the neocons regrouped after the foreign policy disasters of the Bush administration and infiltrated Obama’s administration without missing a beat.
Change a few of the particulars/names and the neocon arguments for further U.S. involvement in the Israel-Iran War sounds like the same failed arguments we have heard ad nauseam from this clique:
Neoconservatism: The Return…
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It doesn’t matter to these people that the nation is sick of war and near bankruptcy: they live inside the Washington bubble, the Imperial City, where hubris permeates the air.
It doesn’t matter how many times the neocons have been repelled, they just keep bouncing back.
This is a crew of respected "analysts" and policy wonks that has never been right, not about anything.
It is a record unequaled in the history of ideas, yet the neocons’ influence, while it is currently waning, never disappears altogether.
The neocons always make a comeback, and a well-funded one to be sure.
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
Hamas & Hezbollah are not new to the world of Iran's terrorism. Why should Iran itself invade anybody when it has these 2 groups of thugs & murderers ? That's a silly or dumb comment.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
It’s definitely a gambit, albeit, a last ditch effort by the Deep State to compromise nationalism/MAGA by distracting and painting Trump into a corner.
It’s extremely depressing to see the bottom fall out of the non-violent and political movement we had going for the past decade to curb stomp US Marxism. And we had momentum!
If Trump goes through with this and all hell breaks loose, I’ll NEVER vote in national US elections again, because what’s the fricking point if the house always wins?
It’s extremely depressing to see the bottom fall out of the non-violent and political movement we had going for the past decade to curb stomp US Marxism. And we had momentum!
If Trump goes through with this and all hell breaks loose, I’ll NEVER vote in national US elections again, because what’s the fricking point if the house always wins?
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
For maybe the first time ever...
I agree with you.
I agree with you.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 7:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Is there anything more "Deep State" than US military conflict with Iran?
I think the most in your face "Deep State" operation is the Federal Reserve and the MIC.......they are hand and glove.
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