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re: Is there anything more "Deep State" than US military conflict with Iran?
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:07 am to omegaman66
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:07 am to omegaman66
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Same thing.
I didn't take you for a Leftist
That's their illogical (and incorrect) position
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You have just proved my point about dims always changing the definitions.
The irony of this statement is lost on you
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Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:11 am to SlowFlowPro
You are an idiot...
That is all.
That is all.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:15 am to GooseSix
And incorrect
Posted on 6/21/25 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP is now on the record saying that it is the right not the left that believe gender and sex are two different things.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:20 pm to omegaman66
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SFP is now on the record saying that it is the right not the left that believe gender and sex are two different things.
No. I only spoke of Leftism (which you have promoted ITT).
The Left combining the 2 terms is why we have all the tranny nonsense form the Left
Sex = biological term.
Gender = sociological term (with a lot more flexibility)
The Left argues that "sex" includes "gender". That's why chaos ensued. Removing the Leftist nonsense redefining terms fixes almost everything.
That's what you're doing ITT, which is shocking for someone I presume believes they are fighting the Left. Why did you adopt their views/rhteoric?
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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before anyone tries to spin this into me downplaying the event
If you have to say this, it’s because you are downplaying the event.
But let’s be real here. This thread is an attempt by you to reconcile your support of the deep state’s involvement in Ukraine by claiming the only real example of a deep state is Iran.
This “that’s (D)ifferent” attempt by you is similar to your assertion that lawfare doesn’t exist when republicans are being prosecuted but somehow it magically becomes a thing when a democrat is prosecuted.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:42 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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If you have to say this, it’s because you are downplaying the event.
No. I just know the boards population and dishonest brokers... like yourself
I just understand how to anticipate it and cut the legs from the bad rhetoric/dishonest types preemptively
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But let’s be real here. This thread is an attempt by you to reconcile your support of the deep state’s involvement in Ukraine by claiming the only real example of a deep state is Iran.
No. But your inability to understand is on brand
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This “that’s (D)ifferent” attempt by you is similar to your assertion that lawfare doesn’t exist when republicans are being prosecuted but somehow it magically becomes a thing when a democrat is prosecuted.
That's just displaying the hypocrisy of people who create the malleable terms to shift their meaning as it suits their partisan in group.
Like "Deep State", which is having it's definition changed in real time for those purposes.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
Confucius say wise man never argues with a fool.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
to your point though the Iran/nuclear bomb thing does follow closely the Iraq/weapons of mass destruction script. The deep state is begging the world for a nuclear war.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Like "Deep State", which is having it's definition changed in real time for those purposes.
You mean like what you’re doing here?
No one is fooled by what you’re doing here. This is just you trying to reconcile your support of the deep state in Ukraine, which you’ve insisted for several years isn’t a thing, by deflecting to Iran.
In one instance you support the deep state and in the other instance you don’t. This thread is just to justify your own hypocrisy.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:54 pm to mikeytig
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to your point though the Iran/nuclear bomb thing does follow closely the Iraq/weapons of mass destruction script. The deep state is begging the world for a nuclear war.
Naw. Not a nuclear war....lots of conventional war
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:56 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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You mean like what you’re doing here?
No. There is the straw man and dishonesty
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In one instance you support the deep state and in the other instance you don’t.
That sounds like a lot of people on here, but not me
Hence,
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Like "Deep State", which is having it's definition changed in real time for those purposes.
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to justify your own hypocrisy.
Your irony is ironic.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 12:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Why do people on this board bother arguing with a legit sociopath?
Posted on 6/21/25 at 1:02 pm to thebigmuffaletta
Muff, I like you as a poster, but it’s fair what he’s doing IMO. For whatever reason, Israel issues have made the MAGA right hypocrites to me on a few issues. This goes from things like crapping on free speech by throwing out foreign students for saying things we don’t like to cancel culture of universities or people for anti-semitic paranoia to, of course, bellicose neocon-like pro-war support of Israel. I haven’t followed his stance on foreign policy, but at least a guy like Chris Rufo is honest in saying we’re going to flex our muscles on some of these issues, even if it makes us look like hypocrites, because that’s what the electorate wants and the left is just going to do these things when they are back in power.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 1:02 pm to Perfect Circle
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Now do Ukraine.
Y’all keep trying to change the subject because you know you got played like a fiddle. Ukraine is a fricking border skirmish in comparison.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/21/25 at 1:08 pm to cadillacattack
should include IRS
Posted on 6/21/25 at 1:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That sounds like a lot of people on here, but not me
It is you, though. You are totally on board with the deep state in Ukraine.
The fact that some people have taken a hypocritical view in regards to Iran doesn’t change the fact that you are doing the same thing.
This thread is just a deflection of your own hypocrisy.
Posted on 6/21/25 at 1:11 pm to thebigmuffaletta
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It is you, though. You are totally on board with the deep state in Ukraine.
The fact that some people have taken a hypocritical view in regards to Iran doesn’t change the fact that you are doing the same thing.
As usual, you can't even articulate what my actual arguments are
You just invent things to frame as "my" argument
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 6/21/25 at 2:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Yet here you are, swallowing the Carter rhetoric, a half century later.
so there was no "rhetoric" for me to swallow
Posted on 6/21/25 at 3:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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As usual, you can't even articulate what my actual arguments are
You support the deep state actions in Ukraine and have defended them here. That is a fact.
That some people here hold a hypocritical position in regards to Iran doesn’t change the fact that you hold the same double standard in regards to Ukraine.
This entire thread is for you to deflect your hypocrisy with a bunch of “that’s (D)ifferent” rhetoric.
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