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re: Is Russia a Natural Enemy of the USA?

Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:07 am to
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:07 am to
Enemies are fabricated by powerful people who have something to gain. Humans don’t have natural enemies. We are just propagandized and conditioned to believe we do and the monkeys fall in line.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:09 am to
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Russia sees the US and Europe as enemies. You only need to catch a small amount of Russian state tv for this to be clear.


Especially with Trump's collaboration in Russiagate amirite
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7883 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:10 am to
Humans do have natural enemies.

Human nature isn’t peaceful, generous and content.
All these traits have limitations.

No matter what, someone will always want what another has and some will use force to take it.
The world’s history is written in blood long before propaganda.
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 11:12 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35797 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:10 am to
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Is Russia a Natural Enemy of the USA?

I don't think so. That mentality is leftover from the Cold War and was never really true.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9048 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:12 am to
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The problem is that Russia has always been expansionist, which puts them as a threat to our strategic and economic partners.


Thanks, Tantal. You have obviously studied this more than I have.

As to the majority of the people in those areas of Ukraine that are under Russian control, do you think they would prefer to be part of Ukraine or Russia?
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:15 am to
No, you just got the answer you were looking for…the US is expansionist. China is expansionist.

Powers compete.

Russia competes and they don’t struggle with a Russia first mentality.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14262 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:15 am to
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NATO expanding its presence on the Russian border is the issue here.



NATO has been on the Russian border for over 20 years
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85449 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:15 am to
You might want to learn the definition of the word CONSERVATIVE. They are RUSSIAN NATIONALIST TRADITIONALISTS in that they reject Woke bullshite that has swept the West and ascribe to a reality-based idea of human nature. That does not have ANYTHING to do with Conservatism, which is based on individual liberty, limited government, the rule of law, etc. After all, Putin himself was a zealot KGB agent. He's basically a Russian strongman in the Russian tradition that is willing to do whatever it takes to advance Russian interests, and he enjoys wide support because of it. Just because he understands that chicks don't have dicks and doesn't want his culture degraded by our sickness does not magically make him a Conservative.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10334 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:15 am to
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Of course, the invasion of Ukraine is tragic and troubling. Was it justified? Probably not,


It was never our place to judge that. The US invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. The US had much less justification to do so than Russia invading Ukraine
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7883 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:16 am to
Yes and this was an EXPANSION.

They said it was unacceptable, did they not?
Why did it continue?

Coulda been avoided no?
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7883 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:19 am to
It doesn’t hurt either.

The modern day conservative resembles the traditional conservative less and less .

From a social conservative aspect Putin and Russia align.
From a government control standpoint - agree.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35797 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:20 am to
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NATO has been on the Russian border since the day the North Atlantic Treaty was enacted in 1949
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35797 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:21 am to
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They said it was unacceptable, did they not?
Why did it continue?

Sovereign nations wanted to join.
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:21 am to
There’s absolutely no reason why Russia couldn’t be a great ally to us.

I favor Russia also because they resist globalization satanism.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7883 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:24 am to
And here we are.

China, Russia, Iran are all sovereign nations.
As is Mexico.

If all these sovereign nations decided that the US border needed their bases, I guess that’s okay?

Sovereign nations wanted to join on the US border.
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 11:27 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35797 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:25 am to
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And here we are

Its not a general NATO expansion problem for Russia. Its Ukraine and Belarus in particular. They view both as Russian.

Estonia joining NATO didn't get us here.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14300 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:28 am to
Russia is trying to regain its imperial and Soviet boarders with the resultant power by invading its neighbors. This makes it an enemy of peace.

Russia has allied with Communist/Fascist China, Evil Totalitarian North Korea, and Terrorist Iran. Birds of a feather. Or, the New Axis of Evil.

Russia conspired with Brazil, China, India, and South Africa to form the anti/Western and anti-American BRICS organization.

THEY consider the West and America THEIR enemies. I trust this as factual honest truth. Why should we question them?
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
3570 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 12:32 pm to
Russia.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36038 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 12:37 pm to
I don't know about natural enemy, but Russia's neighbors tend to not like them very much. E. Europeans don't particularly like them. Scandinavian certainly don't. Further east, the Afghans don't like them. The Chinese fought a border war with them in the 1960's. Japan has beefs with them over the Kuril Islands .
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80260 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 12:39 pm to
They are the trailer park part of Western civilization,

but are still part of it.
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