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re: Is criminalising prostitution the ultimate example of "male patriarchy"?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:44 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:44 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Then why not just criminalize all hateful speech, dishonesty, and prejudice too? I mean it's not illegal, and I find it immoral, so by not criminalizing it we are allowing it, and maybe even supporting it.
The question we must ask ourselves is whether or not we should allow or even support immoral and/or destructive behavior because people will do it regardless of the law?
Again. My issue is the criminlization. It doesn't prevent the behavior, and it instead makes it less safe, and is often associated with larger criminal network, often with mode morally reprehensible behaviors (trafficking; abuse; murder).
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:45 pm to FooManChoo
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Not at all. Hard work in itself is not dehumanizing as it has been a staple of existence for people throughout history.
I mean it's not called the "world's oldest profession" for nothing.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:46 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Here's a related question. How come the "small government" crowd doesn't fight for the legalization of marijuana?
LOL hypocrites with no real principles.
It works both ways. Hypocrites on both ends.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:46 pm to FooManChoo
What's the difference? Both are optional jobs people take to make money. Maybe if society did not have such a strong bias against the latter, we wouldn't be having this conversation
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:46 pm to Iosh
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There's nothing magical about being a janitor or a short-order cook that imbues them with any more dignity than a prostitute, other than the stigma of illegality itself.
Whenever I see a janitor or a short-order cook, I treat them with dignity and respect because they are willing to do hard work for an honest buck.
Whenever I see a prostitute, I treat them with the disrespect they deserve because all they do is have sex for quick, easy and big money.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:47 pm to FooManChoo
quote:But this is the same justification the SJWs use too push their causes.
Of course it can happen, but more often than not bad behavior must be enforced with "teeth" or else it won't work. I don't have a problem with government protecting the dignity of its citizens as well as the lives or wellbeing of its citizens.
And if the only thing stopping such a terrible behavior is the government, then maybe we are just far weaker as a society than we think, or maybe it's not that terrible afterall.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:48 pm to DawgfaninCa
I mean all it is, are people taking advatage of other's sex drives. And I highly doubt it's that simple.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:49 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:I don't think we should allow one bad behavior because not doing so will result in another bad behavior. I think the bad stuff is going to happen regardless of our best intentions, so we have to decide what we should stand up for.
Maybe not, but I would argue that the criminlization of it, and it's continues existence largely in a larger criminal underworld, causes more negative consequences.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:50 pm to DawgfaninCa
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Whenever I see a janitor or a short-order cook, I treat them with dignity and respect because they are willing to do hard work for an honest buck.
Whenever I see a prostitute, I treat them with the disrespect they deserve because all they do is have sex for quick, easy and big money.
So you're essentially discriminating on the outcome of supply and demand.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:51 pm to NOFOX
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I mean it's not called the "world's oldest profession" for nothing.
Prostitution is not the "world's oldest profession".
Thievery is the world's oldest profession.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:57 pm to DawgfaninCa
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Whenever I see a prostitute, I treat them with the disrespect they deserve because all they do is have sex for quick, easy and big money.
You sound like a shitty person. I also don't think you understand much about the courtesan arts.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:58 pm to rbWarEagle
quote:
Whenever I see a janitor or a short-order cook, I treat them with dignity and respect because they are willing to do hard work for an honest buck.
Whenever I see a prostitute, I treat them with the disrespect they deserve because all they do is have sex for quick, easy and big money.
quote:
So you're essentially discriminating on the outcome of supply and demand.
No.
I just respect people who are willing to do hard honest menial work to earn money.
I don't respect prostitutes, drug dealers, gamblers, thieves. etc. who will do anything just to make quick, easy, big bucks.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:59 pm to FooManChoo
quote:I see lots of superficial differences. I don't see a fundamental one. In all cases you're doing a specific sequence of actions with your body in exchange for money. Mopping toilets or sucking cock, it's all labor.
If you don't see a fundamental difference between sweeping floors and letting strangers have sex with you, I don't know what else to tell you.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:00 pm to DawgfaninCa
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I just respect people who are willing to do hard honest menial work to earn money.
I don't respect prostitutes, drug dealers, gamblers, thieves. etc. who will do anything just to make quick, easy, big bucks.
You are assuming having sex with people who are willing to buy it is an easy job. You're making a lot of assumptions, really.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:01 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:The only time I've knowingly interacted with prostitutes was when they pestered me in Vegas, and I tried to avoid them. And I don't typically frequent the places where I might find them, nor would I attempt to interact with them if they are present.
Whenever I see a prostitute, I treat them with the disrespect they deserve because all they do is have sex for quick, easy and big money.
I find it off that for someone who despises the profession as much as you, that somehow you're in situations where you can intentionally interact with them.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:02 pm to notsince98
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2) If guys could get paid for having sex, a lot would do it.
How many guys in porn were offered money but said, "I'd hit that for free"?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:02 pm to Iosh
quote:There's a natural intimacy in prostitution (sex tends to do that) that is different than anything else you can compare it to.
How is the woman who scans my groceries different from a self-checkout kiosk?
If you want to compare prostitution, you should compare the prostitute to the apple that is being scanned at the grocery store kiosk, not the person or machine scanning it, because you aren't paying for a service she performs, you are paying for her and her body, to use it as you see fit.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:04 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:I'm sure google can point you in the right direction. Drudge seems to be preoccupied by sex dolls and machines, as I've seen a lot of those "news" stories linked on his site over the past few months.
Where does one find these dolls and websites? If they are "no different" than an actual human, then I may have made some better decisions in college
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:05 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Whenever I see a prostitute, I treat them with the disrespect they deserve because all they do is have sex for quick, easy and big money.
quote:
You sound like a shitty person.
A prostitute who takes advantage of men who are desperate for sex by charging them hundreds of dollars for a few minutes of sex is a shitty person.
quote:
I also don't think you understand much about the courtesan arts.
frick your courtesan arts.
Everything a prostitute can do for money is done better by a woman who does it for love not money.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:06 pm to FooManChoo
quote:Well you said it was it was no different than sex with a human. I figured you just be speaking from experience to make such a statement.
I'm sure google can point you in the right direction. Drudge seems to be preoccupied by sex dolls and machines, as I've seen a lot of those "news" stories linked on his site over the past few months.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 5:07 pm
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