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Is any victory a mandate?
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:55 am
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:55 am
There seem to be so many close races between candidates who seem to agree on very little.
Should a winning candidate in these type of races moderate their positions to acknowledge and respect the other half of their constituency? Or should even a 50% +1 victory be considered a mandate for that candidate to go full steam ahead on his agenda?
Should a winning candidate in these type of races moderate their positions to acknowledge and respect the other half of their constituency? Or should even a 50% +1 victory be considered a mandate for that candidate to go full steam ahead on his agenda?
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:57 am to BrodyDad
If 77 million votes, popular win, electoral win, house and senate win isn’t a mandate I don’t know what else is. Seems like those who lose think they have more of a mandate than any winner in our government.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:58 am to BrodyDad
Obama won 54% of the vote in 2008. He then shoved his communist agenda down the throats of nearly half the country who opposed it. This set the precedent for everything that has followed.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:01 am to BrodyDad
Gotta be an overwhelming popular vote victory for it to be a true mandate
People claimed mandate in 2024 - never legit - and then complained that Trump didn’t have the congressional support he needed to govern well. Can’t be both.
People claimed mandate in 2024 - never legit - and then complained that Trump didn’t have the congressional support he needed to govern well. Can’t be both.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:05 am to NawlinsTiger9
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Gotta be an overwhelming popular vote victory for it to be a true mandate
People claimed mandate in 2024 - never legit
Retard alert
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:06 am to BrodyDad
Im speaking about the smaller races. Direct representation.
In Georgia, for instance, should Ossoff or Collins moderate their positions to account for the views of half of the electorate that differ from them?
I mean this in a representative capacity, not simply trying to win re-election later.
In Georgia, for instance, should Ossoff or Collins moderate their positions to account for the views of half of the electorate that differ from them?
I mean this in a representative capacity, not simply trying to win re-election later.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:08 am to Riverside
Imagine where our country and world would be today if Obama never became president
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:09 am to BrodyDad
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Im speaking about the smaller races. Direct representation. In Georgia, for instance, should Ossoff or Collins moderate their positions to account for the views of half of the electorate that differ from them?
Same rules apply
If it’s actually close to half I could see an argument for that. If it’s a blowout, then eh, sucks to suck.
If it’s 49.8% like Trump in 2024, that means winning with less than half. Nowhere close to Obama numbers and definitely not a mandate.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:10 am to BrodyDad
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Is any victory a mandate?

Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:16 am to BrodyDad
The Democrats absurdly claimed a mandate when Clinton won with 43% in 92. Thankfully, he was insecure and smart enough to monitor the pulse of the nation (triangulation).
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:17 am to FLTech
4 years McCain. 8 Years Hillary, 4 years Rubio?
I wonder what would have happened if McCain won? 8 years? 4 then a swing. Likely no Trump because him leading the birther movement on Twitter is what got him to run.
McCain was solid in the middle. Had he tapped Lieberman he would have won with a coalition ticket.
But you never know. Fun to speculate though.
I wonder what would have happened if McCain won? 8 years? 4 then a swing. Likely no Trump because him leading the birther movement on Twitter is what got him to run.
McCain was solid in the middle. Had he tapped Lieberman he would have won with a coalition ticket.
But you never know. Fun to speculate though.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:17 am to BrodyDad
There has to be a very clear key issue for the win to be a mandate. If the winning side ran on: 'We're for goodness and our opponent is for badness' it's not a mandate.
Trump won on closing the border. So his win was a mandate and he closed it.
The Dems are now running on 'Trump is bad.' So a Dem win will be a mandate to block Trump policies and try to impeach him a few more times.
Trump won on closing the border. So his win was a mandate and he closed it.
The Dems are now running on 'Trump is bad.' So a Dem win will be a mandate to block Trump policies and try to impeach him a few more times.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:19 am to Riverside
Correct. The ACA was passed in the middle of the night without a single Republican vote and done so by including it in a House reconciliation bill that only required 51 votes.
It's that sort of parliamentarian masturbation that they had to resort to.
FWIW, we should do precisely the same thing with the SAVE America Act and see how they like it.

It's that sort of parliamentarian masturbation that they had to resort to.
FWIW, we should do precisely the same thing with the SAVE America Act and see how they like it.
This post was edited on 10/28/26 at 10:25 am
Posted on 10/28/26 at 11:09 am to BrodyDad
I think the country is too evenly divided for one side or the other to claim a clear mandate. We won't see anymore 1972 or 1984 type blow-outs where one side totally dominates. They'll say they have a mandate, but is it really?
At least not legally. We may reach a point where the commies do take control and we have 98% "approval."
At least not legally. We may reach a point where the commies do take control and we have 98% "approval."
This post was edited on 10/28/26 at 11:10 am
Posted on 10/28/26 at 11:22 am to BrodyDad
Maybe.
Maybe not. If the Democrats keep districts close, but still lose by small margins it will be good for the Democrats
Trump is out in 2 years, so Republicans that win by a small percentage are not always going to vote down party lines. Trump is not going to be on the ticket in 2028, so some of his supporters that don’t always vote will stay at home. Congressman that won by a small percentage will want to look like moderates if they want to be reelected
Maybe not. If the Democrats keep districts close, but still lose by small margins it will be good for the Democrats
Trump is out in 2 years, so Republicans that win by a small percentage are not always going to vote down party lines. Trump is not going to be on the ticket in 2028, so some of his supporters that don’t always vote will stay at home. Congressman that won by a small percentage will want to look like moderates if they want to be reelected
This post was edited on 10/28/26 at 11:23 am
Posted on 10/28/26 at 11:23 am to TheFonz
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I think the country is too evenly divided for one side or the other to claim a clear mandate
Ok. So that raises the question. Should the person elected in an evenly divided district moderate his votes on legislation, or should he double down on the wishes of his base?
Posted on 10/28/26 at 11:28 am to BrodyDad
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Is any victory a mandate?
Yes. And in 2024, the American people said very plainly to everyone that they were tired of the way the Biden White House did anything. They liked what Trump was saying and they elected him. They liked what congress was saying and they gave you a Republican majority in there. They told you all plain as day what they wanted. It was absolutely a mandate.
I cannot understand how 2 years later, the GOP has managed to completely alienate their voters on this.
It has to be on purpose. There is no other explanation.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:06 pm to BrodyDad
The only mandate is the US constitution.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:12 pm to BrodyDad
1980 and 1984 sure were. 2016 would have been had the rnc not been confused about what to do (ie worried about re election).
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:18 pm to DeBoar
Harris was the worst Presidential Candidate in United States history not just in her programs or philosophy but in the execution.
Y'all are mistaking that win for a win that Trump got
no
it was handed to him by the worst campain evAr
and now the democrats have reloaded
We just have to do the same in 28
Hillary is the second worst candidate ever
hopefully and likely AOC will be next,,
We don't have to be good we just have to be better than AOC
Y'all are mistaking that win for a win that Trump got
no
it was handed to him by the worst campain evAr
and now the democrats have reloaded
We just have to do the same in 28
Hillary is the second worst candidate ever
hopefully and likely AOC will be next,,
We don't have to be good we just have to be better than AOC

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