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Is any victory a mandate?

Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:55 am
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
498 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:55 am
There seem to be so many close races between candidates who seem to agree on very little.

Should a winning candidate in these type of races moderate their positions to acknowledge and respect the other half of their constituency? Or should even a 50% +1 victory be considered a mandate for that candidate to go full steam ahead on his agenda?

Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
8020 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:57 am to
If 77 million votes, popular win, electoral win, house and senate win isn’t a mandate I don’t know what else is. Seems like those who lose think they have more of a mandate than any winner in our government.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
11906 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:58 am to
Obama won 54% of the vote in 2008. He then shoved his communist agenda down the throats of nearly half the country who opposed it. This set the precedent for everything that has followed.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:01 am to
Gotta be an overwhelming popular vote victory for it to be a true mandate

People claimed mandate in 2024 - never legit - and then complained that Trump didn’t have the congressional support he needed to govern well. Can’t be both.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
8020 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Gotta be an overwhelming popular vote victory for it to be a true mandate

People claimed mandate in 2024 - never legit


Retard alert
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
498 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:06 am to
Im speaking about the smaller races. Direct representation.

In Georgia, for instance, should Ossoff or Collins moderate their positions to account for the views of half of the electorate that differ from them?

I mean this in a representative capacity, not simply trying to win re-election later.
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
30166 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:08 am to
Imagine where our country and world would be today if Obama never became president
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
41406 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Im speaking about the smaller races. Direct representation. In Georgia, for instance, should Ossoff or Collins moderate their positions to account for the views of half of the electorate that differ from them?


Same rules apply

If it’s actually close to half I could see an argument for that. If it’s a blowout, then eh, sucks to suck.

If it’s 49.8% like Trump in 2024, that means winning with less than half. Nowhere close to Obama numbers and definitely not a mandate.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Is any victory a mandate?


Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
1772 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:16 am to
The Democrats absurdly claimed a mandate when Clinton won with 43% in 92. Thankfully, he was insecure and smart enough to monitor the pulse of the nation (triangulation).
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
76059 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:17 am to
4 years McCain. 8 Years Hillary, 4 years Rubio?

I wonder what would have happened if McCain won? 8 years? 4 then a swing. Likely no Trump because him leading the birther movement on Twitter is what got him to run.

McCain was solid in the middle. Had he tapped Lieberman he would have won with a coalition ticket.

But you never know. Fun to speculate though.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
118413 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:17 am to
There has to be a very clear key issue for the win to be a mandate. If the winning side ran on: 'We're for goodness and our opponent is for badness' it's not a mandate.
Trump won on closing the border. So his win was a mandate and he closed it.
The Dems are now running on 'Trump is bad.' So a Dem win will be a mandate to block Trump policies and try to impeach him a few more times.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
80060 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:19 am to
Correct. The ACA was passed in the middle of the night without a single Republican vote and done so by including it in a House reconciliation bill that only required 51 votes.

It's that sort of parliamentarian masturbation that they had to resort to.

FWIW, we should do precisely the same thing with the SAVE America Act and see how they like it.


This post was edited on 10/28/26 at 10:25 am
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23873 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 11:09 am to
I think the country is too evenly divided for one side or the other to claim a clear mandate. We won't see anymore 1972 or 1984 type blow-outs where one side totally dominates. They'll say they have a mandate, but is it really?

At least not legally. We may reach a point where the commies do take control and we have 98% "approval."
This post was edited on 10/28/26 at 11:10 am
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6966 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 11:22 am to
Maybe.

Maybe not. If the Democrats keep districts close, but still lose by small margins it will be good for the Democrats

Trump is out in 2 years, so Republicans that win by a small percentage are not always going to vote down party lines. Trump is not going to be on the ticket in 2028, so some of his supporters that don’t always vote will stay at home. Congressman that won by a small percentage will want to look like moderates if they want to be reelected
This post was edited on 10/28/26 at 11:23 am
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
498 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 11:23 am to
quote:

I think the country is too evenly divided for one side or the other to claim a clear mandate


Ok. So that raises the question. Should the person elected in an evenly divided district moderate his votes on legislation, or should he double down on the wishes of his base?
Posted by Giantkiller
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 11:28 am to
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Is any victory a mandate?



Yes. And in 2024, the American people said very plainly to everyone that they were tired of the way the Biden White House did anything. They liked what Trump was saying and they elected him. They liked what congress was saying and they gave you a Republican majority in there. They told you all plain as day what they wanted. It was absolutely a mandate.

I cannot understand how 2 years later, the GOP has managed to completely alienate their voters on this.

It has to be on purpose. There is no other explanation.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
43249 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:06 pm to
The only mandate is the US constitution.

Posted by goatmilker
With Chinese expect nationalism
Member since Feb 2009
78828 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:12 pm to
1980 and 1984 sure were. 2016 would have been had the rnc not been confused about what to do (ie worried about re election).
Posted by OWLFAN86
Arrogant Dickweed
Member since Jun 2004
200224 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 12:18 pm to
Harris was the worst Presidential Candidate in United States history not just in her programs or philosophy but in the execution.


Y'all are mistaking that win for a win that Trump got
no
it was handed to him by the worst campain evAr

and now the democrats have reloaded
We just have to do the same in 28

Hillary is the second worst candidate ever

hopefully and likely AOC will be next,,

We don't have to be good we just have to be better than AOC
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