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re: Iran shoots down helicopter over Hormuz Strait... the US will respond
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:37 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:37 pm to Antonio Moss
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What action from Iran fundamentally altered its relationship with USA to justify military action?
I assume that you are asking about very recent history rather than the past 47 years that are frequently cited.
Trump has stated on numerous occasions, even prior to being elected in 2016, that he would not allow Iran to possess nuclear weapons.
So anyone who voted for Trump, including me, knew there was a possibility that he might attack Iran.
During his first term, he eliminated Soelimani.
Trump did attack Iran a year ago, and told us that we had "obliterated" Iran's ability to develop nuclear weapons. I believed him.
But somehow, less than 8 months later, they were once again on the verge of developing a nuclear weapon. They even admitted to having 1000 lbs of 60% enriched uranium, which was extremely stupid on their part.
Then Bibi bent Trump's ear and sold him.
We moved our military into position. Normally, you would think we would use that as a negotiating tactic. But, Bibi forced Trump's hand (Rubio admitted it), so we had to attack before we were totally committed. No turning back after that.
And that is how we got to where we are today.
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:38 pm to Antonio Moss
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:40 pm to HangmanPage1
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Mankind is in need of a Great War, lasting peace is not human nature.
The only way mankind will survive the great filter is to move past this belief.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:42 pm to VA LSU fan
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Just destroy the largest Mosque in Mecca.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:43 pm to aubie101
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I’m so glad that Trump decided to step into this quagmire. He truly is a servant and a genius.
4d chess
Lol
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:44 pm to TulsaSooner78
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Trump did attack Iran a year ago, and told us that we had "obliterated" Iran's ability to develop nuclear weapons. I believed him.
Me too and that’s why now I am skeptical of everything that comes out of his mouth now
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:44 pm to Rip Torner
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Awe that’s cute that you think Presidents share with you every thought in the decision process!
Well I guess anyone criticizing anything Joe Biden did in office was illegitimate since we cannot possibly judge Presidents on their actions and their given reasons therefore.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:45 pm to Antonio Moss
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Hard disagree. We have no business in Iran.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:46 pm to JasonDBlaha
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For what they did to fund the 9/11 hijackers? I’m all for it. Bomb the absolute shite out of that country and send them back to the Stone Age.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:47 pm to SlidellCajun
I am in the camp that this was a mistake, but I credit him for showing restraint and not leveling the country. That said, his posture now is so weird. A month ago, he would have dropped the hammer for this. Something is going on -- do we not have the resources to pound them for another month?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:49 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Decimate does not mean total annihilation, retard.
I wish people who aren't smart enough to know the meaning of words would stop using them so their stupidity wouldn't spread to others.
Did you send Trump a message when he used the term incorrectly?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:50 pm to ThuperThumpin
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The only way mankind will survive the great filter is to move past this belief.
It's the truth though.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:50 pm to i am dan
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Did we ever have business in the European theater of WWII?
Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Not Germany. Bringing the US into the war was a move some German military officials did not want.
Germany declared war on the US before the US declared war on Germany.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:53 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Have they released information on the method with which it was shot down?
There is speculation it was a Shahed 358 which is a loitering anti air missile.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:59 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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It's the truth though.
This is getting really off topic ......but what is true? We must destroy our species because it is in our nature?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:16 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Something is going on
We realized our strikes were ineffective in stopping Iran from being able to target critical infrastructure in the neighboring gulf states...particularly oil, nuclear and desalination plants. The issue with the SoH traffic jam and targeting tankers is a problem..a major one but a tanker being hit or the current blockade issue can be fixed fairly quickly. All that multi billion dollar infrastructure gets taken out in multiple countries and we are talking years of to repair and God knows the damage to global economy or lives lost.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:18 pm to Antonio Moss
I would counter with the IAEA report that states that Iran had reached 60% enrichment, which is theoretically a coupe weeks away from 90%.
Let's go with 2035, though.
Couple that with Rubio laying put how Iran's missile building capabilities were on track to outpace our interceptor production capacity and we were about to hit the tipping point of curtailing future Iranian aggression.
Really? None of those things (i just hit the highlights), either alone or combined, would justify military strikes?
How many more attacks on our bases or ships or lives lost would it take?
"You slap me six more times and see what happens!"
Let's go with 2035, though.
Couple that with Rubio laying put how Iran's missile building capabilities were on track to outpace our interceptor production capacity and we were about to hit the tipping point of curtailing future Iranian aggression.
Really? None of those things (i just hit the highlights), either alone or combined, would justify military strikes?
How many more attacks on our bases or ships or lives lost would it take?
"You slap me six more times and see what happens!"
Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:23 pm to AC1221
Should trump sign the peace deal that's on the table or respond for shooting down a helicopter where the pilots survived? The war will continue.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:23 pm to AC1221
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Couple that with Rubio laying put how Iran's missile building capabilities were on track to outpace our interceptor production capacity and we were about to hit the tipping point of curtailing future Iranian aggression.
Might be an indication of how corrupt we are. Our defense budget is ridiculous and the idea that Iranians can bleed us dry of any munitions is just proof of money circling the drain.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 3:50 pm to AC1221
quote:Look at the timeframe when they reached this conclusion and how they reached it. If we trust that the monitoring sensors were working at that time, then they were working in 2018.
I would counter with the IAEA report that states that Iran had reached 60% enrichment, which is theoretically a couple weeks away from 90%.
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