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re: Iran shoots down helicopter over Hormuz Strait... the US will respond

Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
23296 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:54 pm to
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The village idiot has spoken


You are a doody head.
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4617 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:56 pm to
Thought they had no military capabilities?
Posted by CenlaLowell
Alexandria, la
Member since Apr 2016
1315 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:56 pm to
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Because Trump is bounded by Congress and the GOP who want him to avoid making any moves that could jeopardize their chances of winning midterms


Listen they are cooked for the midterms. The train has left the station. Democrats will flip at least one of not both of the chambers.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49478 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:01 pm to
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I have a lot of sympathy for the people of Iran"

so being happy our pilots are safe is vomiting emotions..... but having sympathy for the people of Iran is analyzing facts...... got it.

Does it hurt to be this stupid?


Apparently.

I very clearly was criticizing Trump’s decision to engage in this unnecessary conflict with Iran. My post made no reference either way to safety of the soldiers involved.

You’re analysis and response was that I “didn’t care about foreign policy or these two soldiers”

I’m thrilled they are okay. I am less than thrilled that illiterate and emotionally compromised individuals like yourself get to vote.

And, yes, I can be thrilled that American soldiers are okay and sympathize with Iranian population being held under the thumb of the theocratic authoritarians. Those are not competing positions.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Rza32
Member since Nov 2008
4617 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:02 pm to
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We reportedly threaten Israel that they will be going alone yesterday, and then today this happens. Seems a little fishy to me


Ok Candace.
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
187 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:04 pm to
What would you like me to use as a starting point?

Solemaini's Quds force hunting American soldiers in Iraq for sport?

Or more recent?

Over 200 attacks on US/coalition bases/interests by Iran and it's proxies over the past 5 years?

46 Americans killed on Oct 7?

3 assassination plots?

60% uranium enrichment?

Deal with the Chinese (signed 4 days before Epic Fury kicked off) for Chinese CM-302 supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles?

None of those things even move the needle for you?




Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49478 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:11 pm to
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Did we ever have business in the European theater of WWII?

Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. Not Germany. Bringing the US into the war was a move some German military officials did not want.


Except that Germany and Japan (along with Italy) had already executed the Tripartite Pact a year before Pearl Harbor, and the Germans declared War on the US prior to FDR requesting Congress to declare war on Germany.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
17759 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:12 pm to
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That doesn’t mean they can’t even get a single shot off dumbass.


And capable of somehow controlling the Strait.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2790 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:16 pm to
You do understand that Iran is geographically located on one side of the Strait and it is extremely narrow? They didn’t capture it militarily through force lol it isn’t difficult to put a few armed companies of soldiers on miles of coastline. Are you advocating for an invasion of Iran?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89312 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:16 pm to
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The village idiot has spoken


Every time you post.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49478 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:20 pm to
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None of those things even move the needle for you?


None of these were used as justification by the Trump administration for the current conflict.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2790 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:22 pm to
And how would you even know that or be able to prove that whatsoever? Were you in on the conversations? Otherwise you are being hysterical
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
2397 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:24 pm to
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All hail king Trump all hail, King Trump 2028, baby.




The TDS is strong with this one.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49478 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:26 pm to
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And how would you even know that or be able to prove that whatsoever?




Because the justification came directly from the Trump Administration. . .

They threw out a lot of reasons - many conflicting - but the one that is most likely true came from Rubio, who stated that the US was preemptively striking Iran in order to prevent Iranian retaliation to US holdings in the area following a planned Israeli attack on Iran.
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
187 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:27 pm to
Other than the uranium enrichment, no, those things weren't.

And that's on them. The messaging on this and so many other things need to be a lot better. They really need a media war room to get all the information out.

Do any of those things I listed meet your threshold of justification?
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2247 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:28 pm to
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I’m so glad that Trump decided to step into this quagmire. He truly is a servant and a genius. All hail king Trump all hail, King Trump 2028, baby. We are so lucky to have him we don’t deserve him.
Mankind is in need of a Great War, lasting peace is not human nature.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49478 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:31 pm to
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Other than the uranium enrichment, no, those things weren't.


Except that Trump's own Defense Intelligence Agency publicly stated that Iran would not have weapons-grade capability until 2035 at the earliest.


quote:

Do any of those things I listed meet your threshold of justification?


For the current action, no.

Like I posted above, the most likely scenario is that Israel told the US that they were planning on striking Iran and they needed the US to help take Iranian military capabilities. The US justified it to the public as Iran will most likely counter Israel's attack against both Israeli and US holdings so we should preemptively attack their capabilities.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1278 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:33 pm to
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Trump Obama Bush ii Bush i Reagan Carter Nixon They’ve all stepped into it at some point and NOBODY has learned the lesson. We got oil here and in Latin America, Israel is NOT our ally, let’s move on from that shitehole and from playing world police once and for all.
Nailed
It
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9449 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:34 pm to
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Myself, along with several other posters called on Trump to hit them with tactical nukes about three weeks ago. But several of our resident candy asses started crying about it.

I'd like to inquire if they still feel that way. I bet they don't.


There is a lot to consider with that move that goes beyond purely the candy arse geopolitical ramifications...if that is what you are referring to as candy arse crying IDK. First I assume you would want to use them to take out Iran's under ground missile/ drone complexes which is the primary threat to the region and could cause damage that would take possibly years to repair the damage to the oil infrastructure of the other gulf states. . Conventional arms and some lack of intelligence has made these sites hard to take out. Some of these complexes are 1600 feet deep in solid granite. A nuke may not even be able to destroy them but lets say they can or at least entomb them. 90% of the gulf countries get their drinking water from the Persian gulf and coastal desalination plants.

Those tac nukes..specifically ground detonations around the coast (where a lot of these complexes are located) would be even worse than air bursts as far as possible water contamination issues in the gulf. and it would be even worse if we happen to hit a secret nuclear site that perhaps we didnt know about. Sounds crazy.....shite happens. It would require an immediate shut down of those desalination plants cause if that shite gets in there it would be a nightmare to flush out ..I dont think it would be possible. and the geography of the gulf traps it there for a long time as well. So potentially we are talking about a massive fresh water crisis that will effect millions and millions of people.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2790 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 2:35 pm to
Awe that’s cute that you think Presidents share with you every thought in the decision process!
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