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re: Indianapolis bartender kicks Trump supporter out of his? her? bar

Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:10 am to
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:10 am to
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You seem to hate the Constitution as much as that bartender hates Trump.

"We reserve the right to deny service to anyone"

Freedom of association.
I agree with this premise. But I wonder why it is different when someone on the right does this, like the baker who didn't want to make a cake for a gay wedding because of their religious beliefs. Don't get me wrong, I'm not triggered by this. Like you said, they have the right to refuse service to anyone. Fair enough. It's just (d)ifferent when it's the other way around.
Blame the Colorado state legislature.

Protected classes should not exist. Period. End of comment.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 12:00 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133556 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:11 am to
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the (unwanted) customer was refusing to leave.
Like you refusing to leave this website??
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:12 am to
quote:

quote:

"We reserve the right to deny service to anyone"

Freedom of association.

The little novelty bat was a bit much, but apparently the (unwanted) customer was refusing to leave.
Now imagine that this happened at a honkytonk in TX to a 'transgender' wearing a free palestine tshirt,
My response would be the same.

Consistency is weird, right?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26912 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:13 am to
20 bucks says that bartender pisses its pants over terrorist visa holders getting removed from the country.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83694 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:14 am to
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including threatening someone with a bat?


Again, don't give a shite...

If asked to leave a private establishment, just leave. Why would you want to give them your money? And no point to sit an argue other than make a scene and get likes on TikTok.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50808 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:15 am to
I wonder if all that shite hanging everywhere is a fire hazard? Fire Marshall might need to receive some complaints about public safety if there's concern that all that shite hanging doesn't have a fire retardant rating and that place is a death trap waiting for a mistake or deliberate mischief to set it off.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3374 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:15 am to
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My response would be the same.


Yeah right, you wouldn't touch such a scenario in a thread. But if it involves your allies, warp speed ahead.
Posted by ImJustaBoy
Member since Oct 2023
1870 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:18 am to
So I kick the blacks out and have a white’s only restaurant?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
65322 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:18 am to
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You seem to hate the Constitution as much as that bartender hates Trump.

Feel free to copy and paste the words in my OP which show my disdain for the Constitution
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
30334 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:18 am to
If I owned the bar, I would fire the bartender.

If the customer is not causing a ruckus and hurting my business (doesn't appear she was), then they could be a blue hair tranny wearing a free palestine shirt or a Trump MAGA shirt, I still want her money.

Free speech shall not be infringed.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:21 am to
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You seem to hate the Constitution as much as that bartender hates Trump.

"We reserve the right to deny service to anyone"

Freedom of association.

The little novelty bat was a bit much, but apparently the (unwanted) customer was refusing to leave.


These arguments didn’t work out that well for my grandparents in the south in the 50s and 60s
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83694 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:21 am to
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So I kick the blacks out and have a white’s only restaurant?


That would be discpicable and disgusting, but frick you, you will live and die by the public backlash.

No different than the bakers in CO... if they don't want to bake a cake for a couple of gays, its your prerogative and you will suffer the consequences of public opinion.

This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 10:29 am
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17131 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:22 am to
There are lawsuits all over the country because LGBTQ would like companies to perform services against the owners wishes. Bake a cake, ride shares, marriage ceremonies halls are a few that come to mind. A restaurant on the East costs, among others, have thrown people out because they a conservatives and one paid the price in doing so. Me personally why waste your time going into a particular place that you obviously don’t fit in and doing so I assume is just to bring attention
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11395 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:23 am to
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Now imagine that this happened at a honkytonk in TX to a 'transgender' wearing a free palestine tshirt,


quote:

My response would be the same.

Consistency is weird, right?


YOUR response might be the same, but the MSM's response would not. That's the point. So no, not consistent.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38938 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:28 am to
I agree with the bar. Private business, so their choice.

However, methinks the hack judges like Boasberg would issue an injunction in a cocaine heartbeat if a country bar told a White Dude for Harris to get out.
Posted by 24nights
North of I10
Member since Apr 2012
5255 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:28 am to
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I've called three times, mailbox is full


Their google reviews are not full, yet
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8684 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:29 am to
If the sky screamers don’t want your money, plenty of other, more normal establishments in Indy will gladly accept it.

Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6122 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:32 am to
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Who cares what it was about? A customer was denied service because of a particular belief/ideology, and this is supposed to be America. Did she do this intentionally? Probably. But the Activists in Colorado absolutely targeted that baker.


What are you trying to say? If you had a bar full of your friends and someone came in shouting stupid socialist pro Kamala beliefs, would you like the ability to make them leave? I sure would.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:33 am to
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quote:

Freedom of association.
These arguments didn’t work out that well for my grandparents in the south in the 50s and 60s
It is an unfortunate fact that there were lots of bigots there and then.

The Civil Rights Act and related legislation certainly helped to remedy that situation, even if it took about four decades to do so.

But the Constitution does implicitly guarantee freedom of association and does not give the federal government authority to "fix" bigots.

As I have said, probably 3000 times, I am a Textualist. Textualism does not always produce the "best policy," but it is nonetheless the best and most consistent school of constitutional interpretation.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 10:35 am to
I would love for the civil rights act to be abolished, but it’s not at the moment and until people are willing to go all the way and say it should be abolished like I’m doing, then these constitutional arguments are retarded cope
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