re: In Montreal, you can’t have a Christian singer have a worship service in a Church

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Why don't you look up the law in Montreal?

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I’ll tell you that it is not advertisement that triggered the need for the original permit.

The sole reason for the initial permit was that the concert was to happen in a public (government-owned) space. Period. Full stop.

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So now that you've defended the actions of the city,

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Oh really?

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No, not really

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We all know they did it because they hate what Feucht stands for

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There you go again, can a Christian singer have a worship service in a church in Montreal?

Do I need to post examples of when Christian singers have had worship services in churches in Montreal? Because even one instance would disprove the assertion of the OP.

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Do I need to post examples of when Christian singers have had worship services in churches in Montreal? Because even one instance would disprove the assertion of the OP.

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I think it would prove the point of the OP. But you seem pretty dull.

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Yeah, as in I think he's lying about this being a "worship service".

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Then you clearly don’t think he is sincere then.



He is specifically in a genre of Christian music which is praise and worship and the former worship leader at Bethel Church.


Someone in that vein who is sincere doesn’t see it as a concert. They are leading another worship service and expect their audience to be joining in in praise and worship. Thus it would be since that he was leading a worship service.

Most if not all of his stuff is singing generic praise and worship standards like any contemporary Sunday service.

Anyone who says Feucht is being persecuted is dim.

Anyone who says Feucht is being treated exactly according to the letter of the law is a fricking retard.

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A bar that has live music on Saturday night doesn't have to get a permit for each Saturday, right?

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Is it a normal weekly occurrence? I believe this would fall under that "universal permitting" kilo was referencing earlier, but it depends on locality.

Hosting a larger event can require a different type of permit

Like this website explains

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If you plan on holding a live event, such as a party or concert, you might want to consider getting a license that allows you to do so. Although you don't have to put a license on your checklist, it's important to note that these licenses come from your state's licensing authority.

Or this actual setup by New Orleans

[quote]The city is defining “live entertainment” as musical acts, theatrical plays, stand-up comedy, magic, dance performances, DJs, and burlesque and drag performances, a news release said. Those will be allowed with either a Special Event Permit or a Certificate of Registration issued by the Department of Safety and Permits. In accordance with state guidelines, singing, karaoke and wind-blown instruments are not allowed in indoor settings. Live entertainment is not allowed indoors in bars or breweries.

Special event permits are required for one-time, occasional events or outdoor live entertainment, such as a front porch concert, a wedding not at a reception hall, drive-in concert or movie at a park, or a bar with a band in an enclosed outdoor courtyard.

A Certificate of Registration is required for businesses with live entertainment on a regular basis, such as restaurants with Sunday brunch; a reception hall that hosts weddings and funerals; and an adult live entertainment performance venues.

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What you're talking about for the bar example is the Certificate of Registration.

The type of event in OP would require the Special Events Permit

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Then you clearly don’t think he is sincere then.

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I think he believes that he's a Christian sincerely.

That is irrelevant to his belief about this being a worship service or performance/concert.

Many people who sincerely believe they're Christians lie all the time.

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Someone in that vein who is sincere doesn’t see it as a concert.

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He had already applied for permits elsewhere. If he "sincerely didn't see it as a concert", it would make no sense for that prior behavior to have occurred.

Also, he was told prior to the event that a permit was needed.

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like any contemporary Sunday service.

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Was this on a Sunday?

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I believe that's also the conclusion of the Montreal authorities. Hence, not "worship".

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That's not up to the government.

Read the case.

In Canada religions get a lot of leeway on how they worship and who they invite.

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All of these personal attacks on SFP, and his original point still stands, the OP was misleading.

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It's up to that Church to decide that.

In Canada if First Nation people want to invite someone that's their call.

Same with the Muslims.

It's not about if you don't like him.
He's not Canadian, it's not his rights that are being trampled.

It's that church's, they are the ones who are getting the fine.

They should be able to invite anyone they want.