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re: In Montreal, you can’t have a Christian singer have a worship service in a Church

Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38431 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:55 pm to
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I have ran and organized hundreds and hundreds of concerts and other events throughout my career.
Did you skip 8th grade English?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:55 pm to
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What’s the difference between a concert and a worship service as it pertains to permits?

I already answered that question.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:55 pm to
You did not.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:55 pm to
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All of these personal attacks on SFP
Attacks in the stupidity of the original assertion, sure. All of which is warranted btw

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the OP was misleading
How so? I asked SFP a question and SFP has already admitted it won't be answered

Why are churches allowed to have these SAME EVENTS all over the place every week? Why did this ONE get interrupted?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:55 pm to
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this is legit permit regulation enforcement on an even handed basis

THAT is a completely different discussion
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:56 pm to
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You are so woefully wrong on this one. It makes me wonder just how wrong and dishonest you are about everything else you post on this forum. Your appeal to authority logical fallacy tendency is nauseating generally.


So why didn't they get an injunction to stop the illegality of the locality, if it's that clearly wrong?
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:56 pm to
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Sometimes.

When is it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:57 pm to
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THERE IT IS

THERE IT FREAKING IS

This is SFP speak for "I made a hasty, stupid assertion and now that I've been backed into a corner, I don't want to show that I was wrong and I certainly can't admit I was wrong"

That's not what it is, at all
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:57 pm to
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According to YOU, singing about Jesus (in a church) is insincere, and a ruse to get around needing a permit.

I never said it was insincere. WTF

I specifically said he checks the sincerity box
Posted by Grumpy Nemesis
Member since Feb 2025
2033 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:57 pm to
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Sometimes

From Universally to Sometimes at light speed
ROFLMAO
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:57 pm to
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But isn't it up to churches how they worship, and who they invite to play?

Not really, the US hasn't ever allowed cannabis consumption as a part of Rastafarian rituals.

And if the church around the corner advertised that Taylor Swift was to come "worship" there next Sunday, I believe the city might have something to say about that.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:58 pm to
I think we've reached the point where SFP starts to ignore me because I won't let the question die.

Why are churches allowed to have this same kind of event all over the country every week? SFP swears a permit is required but then also said LEO turns a blind eye.

All LEO

Everywhere

Every week
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 2:59 pm to
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Christian places of worship do exist

Sure, even the crazy ones teaching nonsense check the "sincere religious beliefs" box.

That means we get to have the further conversation.

All Pastafarians would have to get a permit. They don't even get to have the conversation over whether or not there is legal protection of their religion.

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so you are obviously on an island comparing it to unanimously agreed insincere troll religions.

By explaining to you people what that means? When you so clearly need it explained.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:00 pm to
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And if the church around the corner advertised that Taylor Swift was to come "worship" there next Sunday, I believe the city might have something to say about that.


I believe you’re wrong.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:00 pm to
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You said it, too.

He said it first. Why weren't you curious enough to ask him?
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Couldn’t last with that assertion for two successive posts?

My assertion that the Montreal authorities apparently agree with Narax? Yeah, it seems obvious to me.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37812 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:00 pm to
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I never said it was insincere. WTF I specifically said he checks the sincerity box



You literally replied to my post about how it all depends on Sean Feuchts sincerity by saying you don’t think he is



ETA

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It’s all in how genuine you think Sean Feucht is.


After this story and how he reacted? I believe he's not very genuine at all.



LINK to your post
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 3:03 pm
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1940 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:01 pm to
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checks the sincerity box
This is so awesome SFP. Now we've moved into the subjectivity of "sincerity" as if MPD had a discussion about this before they barged in on a MAGA friendly performer.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22765 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:01 pm to
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And if the church around the corner advertised that Taylor Swift was to come "worship" there next Sunday, I believe the city might have something to say about that.

What if it wasn't advertised? Is that what triggers the need for a permit - that the event is advertised?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477256 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:02 pm to
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When is it?

The same as all similar events/performances who require permits in that locality. So, whatever event meets those variables (they differ by jurisdiction) faces the permitting regs. Churches don't get to be excepted from the universal application of the permitting law b/c it's a church. They have to abide by all other generally-applicable laws.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 3:02 pm to
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Why weren't you curious enough to ask him?


Because his statement was explanatory. Not defensive of the Montreal government.

We all know they did it because they hate what Feucht stands for with relationship to politics.

You think that’s a defensible position while Narax did not imply that.
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