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re: In Montreal, you can’t have a Christian singer have a worship service in a Church

Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:01 pm to
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it was a free event.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:02 pm to
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Except the references to multiple permits you will have to apply for


Yes. If you’re having events outdoors or depending upon the number of people attending.

Super specific and applicable.

Embarrassing, counselor. Get it together.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44327 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:03 pm to
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He had already applied for permits elsewhere. If he "sincerely didn't see it as a concert", it would make no sense for that prior behavior to have occurred.


He was denied.

He chose to go to church.

You hate Christians, so evidently he is “sincerely insincere,” or whatever other illogical terminology you choose to deflect with.

This is evidenced by the following:

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Many people who sincerely believe they're Christians lie all the time.


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like any contemporary Sunday service.


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Was this on a Sunday?


It does have to be.

He implied that the service was like a Sunday service.

It doesn’t have to be exact.

Similar is what is implied.

Again, you are supporting Canadian authoritarianism.

You do you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:04 pm to
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Yes. If you’re having events outdoors


Read again

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If holding an event outside, add on a few more permits


"Add a few more" means that there already were permits

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Embarrassing, counselor. Get it together.



As opposed to "they're lying", as your position.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:05 pm to
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You hate Christians, so evidently he is “sincerely insincere,” or whatever other illogical terminology you choose to deflect with.

Holy fricking shite

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7971 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:06 pm to
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Are you saying that, in Montreal, they can't have a Christian singer have worship service in a church?

I say they can, but it depends on the person.


If it depends on the person then they have no rights.

It's not a right if you are only allowed to do something the government likes.

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Not if it's going to result in general civil unrest. The government has an obligation to keep the peace.

Um... so you are saying if Republicans create civil unrest for every drag event then the federal government should ban any place that invites Ru Paul from having an event?

Thats backwards, a free society allows people to do what they want to within their rights, and keeps violent protesters away from them.

Else the KKK could have shut down the Civil Rights movement.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:08 pm to
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If it depends on the person then they have no rights.

This is not true.

You're mis-stating the law.

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It's not a right if you are only allowed to do something the government likes.

Religions and religious people don't get to break the laws everyone else must obey b/c of their religion.

Like in that Supreme Court (CA) case. If you want a driver's license, then you have to take a photo. If you don't, then you don't get to break the law and get one anyway.

Posted by RUFshreve
Shree'pote
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:09 pm to
Do you ever read the shite you write, and think to yourself how insane you sound? Or is just everyone else?

They need a permit to have a Christian band play worship music at a church now?

That justifies a dozen cops, smoke bombs and antifa protests outside?

What world are you living in?
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:10 pm to
Does this make you horny or something... is that why you do it everyday?
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:10 pm to
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You made an offer and I accepted.

I didn't make you an offer, I asked you a question. You claimed that you need some sort of proof that a Christian singer can actually have a worship service in a church in Montreal by answering in the affirmative. That's enough for me to know that you're being disingenuous.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477263 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:11 pm to
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They need a permit to have a Christian band play worship music at a church now?

That's certainly a way to frame it, and what they tried.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:11 pm to
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"Add a few more" means that there already were permits


Sure. Do I need a permit to play instruments in my basement with friends? Sounds like I might based on your argument here.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46873 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:12 pm to
Localities typically require permits for events on public property for many reasons, including liability; access for police, fire, etc.; for ensuring proper facilities like bathrooms; for maintaining capacity limits; ensuring other events aren’t planned for the same time; upholding noise and other nuisance ordinances; and other logistical and financial reasons.

These reasons don’t really apply in private venues like churches, which are responsible for controlling access, for liability, and capacity issues. They are already required to uphold local regulations, regardless of how they use their facilities.

There shouldn’t be a need for a permit for a church to host an event on its premises as long as all other regulations are upheld.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 4:26 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:12 pm to
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Religions and religious people don't get to break the laws everyone else must obey b/c of their religion.


Agreed. Which law did they break?
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
Member since Jan 2025
410 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:13 pm to
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If the event meets the zoning requirements, yes, which this event clearly did.


My initial reaction is this is one of your worst takes, but since you reference. information that clearly CLEARLY shows this requires zoning - please share. I’m surprised you didn’t include it since it was so clear.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:13 pm to
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I’m surprised you didn’t include it since it was so clear.


We’re all very surprised.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:16 pm to
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Um... so you are saying if Republicans create civil unrest for every drag event then the federal government should ban any place that invites Ru Paul from having an event?

Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with that - especially if general civil unrest could be reasonably anticipated.

If a mosque was going to invite some famous radical ayatolla to speak, and it was anticipated that the topic at hand would incite the attendees to violent action, I would hope the civil authorities would not allow that to happen.

But then, I have an awfully low tolerance of Islam.
Posted by Nevada_Tiger
Las Veags
Member since Jan 2025
410 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:17 pm to
What was the stated reason from the mayor for cancelling the original venue? The Canadian news sites I’ve seen all require registration on the maw stories.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27337 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:19 pm to
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That's clearly not what was going on


Does this mean one would need a permit from the city to have their marriage ceremony in the Church?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41333 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 4:21 pm to
SFP got straight up bodied in this thread by no less than 20 different posters.

What a massacre
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