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In just a few years, the average retiree will be receiving 37% more in SS than he paid in

Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:46 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69274 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:46 pm


I’m not sure if it is because nobody wants it admit they are getting unearned benefits or what, but the numbers are the numbers. Adjusted for interest, retirees are getting more in SS than what they paid in.

It’s why the program is heading into the fiscal pooper.

Yet we see memes like this, grossly inaccurate


I simply don’t think the average person on the left or the right currently grasps the shite storm coming to Medicare and ss in the 2030s

If congress doesn’t raise fica taxes or reform the program, there will be a 25% automatic cut.

Will make the George Floyd riots look like the cartoon scene from Mary Poppins
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29026 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:50 pm to
They can have all of what I have paid in…and that is a lot…if they just stop stealing my money from this moment forward.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139947 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:52 pm to
I will agree to give them all mine today if they stop taking out FICA for the rest of my working years.

ETA: what navy said
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 10:00 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79627 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:53 pm to
Fine. Just give me back what I’ve put into it the past 40 years so I can invest it myself. As a gesture of what a nice guy I am and how much I want to help, I’ll even forego the interest on all of that.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15042 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:54 pm to
Al Gore talked about it. Lockbox. You may tease that nerd to holy high heaven but he was right about it.

George Bush said "It's your money. I will cut taxes" (and he did just that after the Iraq war had started (or was impending in any event)).

Clinton and Gore, say what you want, if those policies had been continued, things would not be so bad now.
Posted by AtticusOSullivan
Member since Mar 2016
2255 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:55 pm to
Nothing like paying taxes after paying taxes all year so they can give my money to illegal law breakers and launder it through Ukraine back to themselves. Really makes your pride in the ole USA swell up.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54622 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

I simply don’t think the average person on the left or the right currently grasps the shite storm coming to Medicare and ss in the 2030s


Since 1980, neither party has actually worked for the taxpayer and citizen

1980 was the parting of way for

National Debt
Social Security
Democracy (for the actual average American)
Employment inside the US (before we shipped jobs to Asia)


Yet we argue about
Abortion
Alphabet City
Guns
Border

And throw the blame on "them" over "us"


A UNITED America is best for America but media and corporate monarchies do not profit from such an America.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4307 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:58 pm to
Are you freaking kidding me. They confiscated my money for 40 years you a-hole. The effective return is meager as hell compared to the market index.

And you want to steal 25% of my money.

frick you.

You obviously don't understand a goddamm thing about return on investment.

How about this. You pay your fricking student loans back like I did and leave my shite alone.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 10:02 pm
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
16076 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:00 pm to
You threatening a riot baw
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5557 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:01 pm to
All of you stop your bitching. If you’re want to go private, do it for a given age and lower.

Raise the retirement age? Hell no. I was a lifelong White collar worker. Worked blue collar jobs in high school and college. There is no way blue collar workers can work into their late 60s and 70s. I can still sit on my arse and work in an office. But for the millions of blue collar workers, no way.

So, privatize SS, for workers, increase payroll tax rate, and increase maximum wage. Period.
This post was edited on 2/25/24 at 8:48 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79627 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:03 pm to
What are you yelling at me for? I just want back what I put into it.

Student loans? I never had one.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34685 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:03 pm to
Where have you been mate
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69274 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

Are you freaking kidding me. They confiscated my money for 40 years you a-hole. The effective return is meager as hell compared to the market index.

And you want to steal 25% of my money.

frick you.



This is a 100 irrelevant. You are speaking purely in hypotheticals. The “market returns” you speak of were not earned; not by you and not by the govt, because the money was never invested. How can you be owed something that you never had?
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4307 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:07 pm to
They have already raised the retirement age. They want to raise it again.

You have to work till 67 just to get the full amount now. Before that they limit your earnings to like 20k a year or they start taking your benefits back.

The male life expectancy is down to 72 in this shite stain of a country. Your want to cut my meager ss by 25% to avoid paying my old arse lije a 2% annual return on my money for five or six years.

You selfish fricks.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81472 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:09 pm to
Mate welcome back, but the topic du jour is Donald J. Trump's resounding victory in South Carolina.

P.S. Congratulations on the Michigan title and the Lions excellent season.

I look forward to working with you this fall to help re-elect Trump.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 10:10 pm
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23867 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Yet we argue about Abortion Alphabet City Guns Border


two of those are guaranteed by our founding documents
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8610 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:09 pm to
Riddle me this: the dollar I paid in would have paid for a pound of hamburger, now I need six to eight dollars to buy a comparable pound of hamburger, and inflation sucks, but it's sucking a lot worse recently.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4307 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

This is a 100 irrelevant. You are speaking purely in hypotheticals. The “market returns” you speak of were not earned; not by you and not by the govt, because the money was never invested. How can you be owed something that you never had?


It's not a voluntary program idiots. They would not allow me to invest it. So because of that your saying they owe me no return at all?

Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
12112 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:10 pm to
If they can pay illegals 10k just for committing the crime of crossing the border they can pay me everything I am owed till I die..frick em
Posted by Kang of Memphissippi
Memphissippi
Member since Sep 2023
561 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:11 pm to
I am 33 now and just plan to work until I die because you boomers ruined the country. How’s that for selfish?
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