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PEEPO
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In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
Gary Johnson was governor of neighboring New Mexico so he had way more name recognition and support in Arizona than in most states.

Johnson pulled 4% of the vote in Arizona last time, that's a fairly significant amount. He got 3.3% in Nevada as well. He got 37K votes in a state Trump only lost by 27K.

The libertarian candidate this time around is basically a non-factor and will get 1% or less.

A huge chunk of those Johnson voters might not vote at all this time, but the ones that do actually vote will vote for Trump over Biden.

I personally know of 3 Johnson voters who are all supporting Trump this time. I scolded them for voting Johnson the first time around and they mostly did it because they didn't like either candidate and wanted to protest vote and they also thought it wouldn't matter, that Trump had no chance, etc.

The lack of Libertarian defections this time around will help Trump nationally a tiny bit, but especially in Arizona and Nevada.
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kingbob
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
I was a libertarian voter for the previous two presidential elections. I will be voting for Trump this year. I don’t know how Jo is doing relative to Gary.


JasonMason
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
Maybe Jo will pull some of the voters who just show up to vote on pot.


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SCLibertarian
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
Voted Johnson in 2016. Voting for Trump in 2020.


LSUSkip
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
Now do New Mexico and see how that comes out.


jclem11
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
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I personally know of 3 Johnson voters who are all supporting Trump this time. I scolded them for voting Johnson the first time around and they mostly did it because they didn't like either candidate and wanted to protest vote and they also thought it wouldn't matter, that Trump had no chance, etc.


Damn. I'm feeling attacked rn.

This was me in 2016. Voted Trump in 2020.


PEEPO
Member since Sep 2020
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
Yeah New Mexico was obviously Johnson's best state, he got 9.35% there, 74K votes

Trump lost by 65K.

I don't think New Mexico will be in play, but it should be much closer.


Angry Bruce Pearl
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
There were 17k Mormon voters in AZ that voted for McMuffin last time too. They're not going to break for Biden.


Ssubba
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
Chalk me up as another Johnson voter who will go Trump this time.


Marciano1
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
Gary had a lot more Libertarian momentum four years ago than Jo does this time around.


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tjv305
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
I know of 2 people that voted for Johnson , one would have voted Trump but passed way and the other is voting for Trump .


PEEPO
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
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Gary had a lot more Libertarian momentum four years ago than Jo does this time around.


Yep, third party candidates in general were getting way more buzz in 2016 because both major candidates were considered "unlikeable"

There has been 0 buzz about them this time, no debates, no discussion, they effectively don't exist this time around.


Pelican fan99
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
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There were 17k Mormon voters in AZ that voted for McMuffin last time too.
i wouldn’t count on these people voting Trump. You had to be pretty deranged to vote for McMuffin


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Charm299
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
So I assume the one that passed away will be voting for biden


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efrad
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
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Voted Johnson in 2016. Voting for Trump in 2020.


Same here.


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jmcwhrter
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one would have voted Trump but passed way


Shit! That's one for Joe


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bayoubengals88
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
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The lack of Libertarian defections this time around will help Trump nationally a tiny bit, but especially in Arizona and Nevada.

Check NH and ME.


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dcbl
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
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one would have voted Trump but passed way and the other is voting for Trump .


so 1 Biden vote & 1 Trump vote - I guess a wash is better than 2 votes for Joe Hidin'


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Team Vote
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
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Damn. I'm feeling attacked rn.

This was me in 2016. Voted Trump in 2020.

Same here, I regret my 2016 vote. The lockdowns will have pushed every Johnson voter firmly to Trump. Wonder how many Jill Stein voters Biden picks up because I imagine none of them are voting for Trump.


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DougsMugs
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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
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Chalk me up as another Johnson voter who will go Trump this time.


I almost was one. I really didn't like or trust Trump. I hated the lying Ted nonsense.

When push came to shove, I voted Trump because Hillary was so horrible.

This election, I am voting for Trump for Trump.



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