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In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:03 pm
Gary Johnson was governor of neighboring New Mexico so he had way more name recognition and support in Arizona than in most states.
Johnson pulled 4% of the vote in Arizona last time, that's a fairly significant amount. He got 3.3% in Nevada as well. He got 37K votes in a state Trump only lost by 27K.
The libertarian candidate this time around is basically a non-factor and will get 1% or less.
A huge chunk of those Johnson voters might not vote at all this time, but the ones that do actually vote will vote for Trump over Biden.
I personally know of 3 Johnson voters who are all supporting Trump this time. I scolded them for voting Johnson the first time around and they mostly did it because they didn't like either candidate and wanted to protest vote and they also thought it wouldn't matter, that Trump had no chance, etc.
The lack of Libertarian defections this time around will help Trump nationally a tiny bit, but especially in Arizona and Nevada.
Johnson pulled 4% of the vote in Arizona last time, that's a fairly significant amount. He got 3.3% in Nevada as well. He got 37K votes in a state Trump only lost by 27K.
The libertarian candidate this time around is basically a non-factor and will get 1% or less.
A huge chunk of those Johnson voters might not vote at all this time, but the ones that do actually vote will vote for Trump over Biden.
I personally know of 3 Johnson voters who are all supporting Trump this time. I scolded them for voting Johnson the first time around and they mostly did it because they didn't like either candidate and wanted to protest vote and they also thought it wouldn't matter, that Trump had no chance, etc.
The lack of Libertarian defections this time around will help Trump nationally a tiny bit, but especially in Arizona and Nevada.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 3:17 pm
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:06 pm to PEEPO
I was a libertarian voter for the previous two presidential elections. I will be voting for Trump this year. I don’t know how Jo is doing relative to Gary.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:07 pm to PEEPO
Maybe Jo will pull some of the voters who just show up to vote on pot.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:08 pm to PEEPO
Voted Johnson in 2016. Voting for Trump in 2020.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:10 pm to PEEPO
Now do New Mexico and see how that comes out.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:10 pm to PEEPO
quote:
I personally know of 3 Johnson voters who are all supporting Trump this time. I scolded them for voting Johnson the first time around and they mostly did it because they didn't like either candidate and wanted to protest vote and they also thought it wouldn't matter, that Trump had no chance, etc.
Damn. I'm feeling attacked rn.
This was me in 2016. Voted Trump in 2020.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:12 pm to LSUSkip
Yeah New Mexico was obviously Johnson's best state, he got 9.35% there, 74K votes
Trump lost by 65K.
I don't think New Mexico will be in play, but it should be much closer.
Trump lost by 65K.
I don't think New Mexico will be in play, but it should be much closer.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:13 pm to PEEPO
There were 17k Mormon voters in AZ that voted for McMuffin last time too. They're not going to break for Biden.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:14 pm to kingbob
Chalk me up as another Johnson voter who will go Trump this time.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:15 pm to Angry Bruce Pearl
Gary had a lot more Libertarian momentum four years ago than Jo does this time around.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:16 pm to PEEPO
I know of 2 people that voted for Johnson , one would have voted Trump but passed way and the other is voting for Trump .
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:18 pm to Marciano1
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Gary had a lot more Libertarian momentum four years ago than Jo does this time around.
Yep, third party candidates in general were getting way more buzz in 2016 because both major candidates were considered "unlikeable"
There has been 0 buzz about them this time, no debates, no discussion, they effectively don't exist this time around.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:20 pm to Angry Bruce Pearl
quote:i wouldn’t count on these people voting Trump. You had to be pretty deranged to vote for McMuffin
There were 17k Mormon voters in AZ that voted for McMuffin last time too.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:20 pm to tjv305
So I assume the one that passed away will be voting for biden
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:21 pm to SCLibertarian
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:21 pm to tjv305
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one would have voted Trump but passed way
shite! That's one for Joe
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:22 pm to PEEPO
quote:Check NH and ME.
The lack of Libertarian defections this time around will help Trump nationally a tiny bit, but especially in Arizona and Nevada.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:23 pm to tjv305
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one would have voted Trump but passed way and the other is voting for Trump .
so 1 Biden vote & 1 Trump vote - I guess a wash is better than 2 votes for Joe Hidin'
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:24 pm to jclem11
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Damn. I'm feeling attacked rn.
This was me in 2016. Voted Trump in 2020.
Same here, I regret my 2016 vote. The lockdowns will have pushed every Johnson voter firmly to Trump. Wonder how many Jill Stein voters Biden picks up because I imagine none of them are voting for Trump.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 3:25 pm to Ssubba
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Chalk me up as another Johnson voter who will go Trump this time.
I almost was one. I really didn't like or trust Trump. I hated the lying Ted nonsense.
When push came to shove, I voted Trump because Hillary was so horrible.
This election, I am voting for Trump for Trump.
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