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re: In Arizona 2016 Johnson got 4%

Posted on 10/19/20 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
Member since Jan 2005
45566 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 5:00 pm to
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I was a libertarian voter for the previous two presidential elections. I will be voting for Trump this year.


Count 2 more of those in MN (my wife and I are both voting Trump)
Posted by titmouse
a tree branch above your car
Member since May 2006
6353 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 5:06 pm to
Jorgensen, other than being a woman, could not be a worse libertarian candidate for the the time.

Anti-racist tropes and wide-open borders. Nope!
Posted by clhawkins19
Greenville, SC
Member since Jan 2020
579 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 5:12 pm to
Jo Jorgensen has absolutely no pull or sway in this election. The libertarians are more than likely leaning Republican. Democrat principles of big government interference are against what they believe in.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90484 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 5:22 pm to
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one would have voted Trump but passed way


He will now be voting for Biden
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28239 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

The lack of understanding of libertarianism is amazing


Feel free to educate the board then.
Posted by viv1d
Member since Aug 2017
1617 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:32 pm to
All libertarians are open borders by the way.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
17111 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:49 pm to
I’m a Libertarian. And I am not for open borders...I’m for eliminating all the free shite that gets them here by eliminating a majority of federal taxes.

However, Dr. Jo and her BLM statements have me on the fence. No Libertarian should take a stance on personal belief, however shitty, either way.

Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:50 pm to
Gary Johnson was also the Libertarian Party Candidate in 2012. He got 1,275,971 votes in 2012. 0.99% of the vote.

Johnson got 4,489,341 votes in 2016 for 3.28% of the vote.

That’s an increase of 3,213,370 votes.

That had to be overwhelmingly normally Republican and don’t trust Trump protest votes.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:52 pm to
I was going to vote for Johnson last time until his VP said vote for Hillary.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36896 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 6:57 pm to
Where does Jo stand on blm?

I was a fan of Johnson until I saw that he supported blm. That lost him my vote, but probably pulled some of those that were going to vote for Clinton.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
17111 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 7:04 pm to
She came out with a bold statement saying she supported BLM.

The backlash was immense. So she crawfished and said she supported the movement and not the org.

Should have never climbed on that hill to die.

And instead of espousing Libertarian ideas (which I think would be received well in today’s climate)...she chose to bash both Trump and Biden. Just a waste of opportunity, again.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146516 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 7:06 pm to
IIRC Johnson made me nervous in a few states that were tight.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146516 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 7:07 pm to
Jo sounds like a full prog
Posted by viv1d
Member since Aug 2017
1617 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 7:47 pm to
I mean not really. She is more fiscally conservative than Trump
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36896 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:06 pm to
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She came out with a bold statement saying she supported BLM.


Maybe that'll be all it takes to pull some of Biden's support. I don't see borderline Trump voters voting for a blm supporter.
Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli
Member since Jun 2020
1622 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:08 pm to
Voted 3rd party in ‘04, ‘08, and ‘12. Voted Trump in ‘16 and can’t wait to MAGA again!
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22052 posts
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:09 pm to
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The libertarian candidate this time around is basically a non-factor and will get 1% or less.

Libertarians are like LiberalHank; they are perfectly fine allowing Democrats into power.
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