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re: Imagine living in the United States your entire life
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If this was true you wouldnt have to worry about foreigners taking your job.
My job got outsourced in 2017 and they had three people producing the same amount of work.
The company found another place for me.
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:04 pm to texag7
I'm a college dropout and have no issues with securing a healthy salary. Maybe the people you're so sympathetic for aren't as competent and as hard working as you think.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:09 pm to BamaAggiemom
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Land a job with McKesson (a top healthcare company). A year later find out your whole division is being outsourced to India and the company wants you to train your replacement.
I was one of those. But I got lucky and they decided to retain me at the last minute, but as an employee of the Indian company, but doing my same job as before. I saw many good colleagues get axed. They weren't slow or dumb or lazy or inefficient. They were simply more expensive than a guy from India who would do a six figure job for minimum wage and work whatever holidays or nights or weekends you tell him, without question.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:28 pm to Powerman
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I'm a college dropout and have no issues with securing a healthy salary. Maybe the people you're so sympathetic for aren't as competent and as hard working as you think.
They’re not lazy or incompetent. They are more expensive.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:39 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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not terribly coherent its ideology and philosophy.
That's populism for you, you tell people what they want to hear. When you have different people, you tell them different things.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:40 pm to texag7
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ESG score
The fact that this even exist is the problem... not the hiring of h1-b.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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If this was true you wouldnt have to worry about foreigners taking your job.
Say it louder.
Meritocracy is moral.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:43 pm to Wally Sparks
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I feel like if these were white Western Europeans coming in the complaining would be less (though still valid).
Why?
The Brits hate Eastern Europe for this very reason.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:51 pm to uziyourillusion
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If that’s something we’re okay with, then open up the southern border. They’ll worker harder and cheaper than blue collar Americans too.
Or, just move your production facilities to Mexico. It keeps them out of China, and keeps potential immigrants in Mexico.
Of all economic options, its the wisest and has the most potential.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:54 pm to texag7
The employer who hires Pajeet should have to prove that there are no Americans who can do the job.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 1:55 pm to LRB1967
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The employer who hires Pajeet should have to prove that there are no Americans who can do the job
What if Pajeet is a better worker?
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What if Pajeet is a better worker?
I doubt that. He might be willing to work for less but that doesn't make him a better worker.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:10 pm to LRB1967
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should have to
That's always the solution for liberals - less liberty.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 2:58 pm to Harry Boutte
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That's always the solution for liberals-less liberty.
So you think it is ok to import foreigners when there are Americans who can do those jobs? Americans should take precedence over immigrants in the labor market.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 3:44 pm to FLTech
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how is this fair to businesses looking to hire the best and most talented people in the world?
So, you're more concerned about what's best for the business owners than the country. Got it.
As others have said, these aren’t the best and brightest. We have a couple super knowledgeable, top .1% Indians in my company. Most are average or slightly above, nothing we can't find here. The main difference is that clients are billed 40% less for our developers in India, so they are probably being paid less than half.
We haven't hired a developer from America in over 2 years. We've added 50 to our india team in that time. My company doesn't bring them over here, but in a few years, some company will because that experience was not given to our own workers.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:25 pm to LRB1967
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So you think it is ok to import foreigners when there are Americans who can do those jobs? Americans should take precedence over immigrants in the labor market.
I bet if you owned a business, you'd be more concerned about keeping your costs down. The American people have spoken, they would rather buy cheap Chinese trash than more expensive, quality American made stuff. Don't expect business owners to care about things that consumers don't care about.
But more importantly, the solution is almost NEVER for the government to, "make them have to..."
Posted on 12/27/24 at 5:36 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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So, you're more concerned about what's best for the business owners than the country.
Ay comrade.
Who wants to decrease their SOL and economic opportunities for nativism?
That's the stupidity that Putin did in Russia to much failure for his people. What good is creating a country where your people live worse, but more racially pure?
Posted on 12/27/24 at 6:06 pm to theunknownknight
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As someone who works with a lot of these overseas “engineers” they are just like us
Most of them really suck at their job. Some are great.
They usually do EXACTLY what they are told with little problem solving outside the box.
My experience as well. They aren't smarter and sure as hell as less creative than Americans.
They are cheaper. Which is why the corporations want us flooded with them.
Posted on 12/27/24 at 8:12 pm to texag7
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Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:25 pm to BamaAggiemom
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That's my daughter. She's actually teaching computer science to the kids of those H1B visa holders now.
Ironically there’s a huge shortage of speech therapists right now. I feel for your daughter.
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