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re: I’m kind of floored at the swift moving open hate for Israel in this nation and world.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:26 pm to DiamondDog
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:26 pm to DiamondDog
Read your Scofield bible I see.
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:27 pm to DiamondDog
I think you should be more shocked at how people are suddenly waking up to how much influence the Israeli lobby has had in our country. Ever since Kennedy was killed, the Israeli lobby has pushed each of our presidents around and has gotten us involved in many conflicts of the Middle East. They’ve also really played the Christian Evangelicals for a long time, and now that’s changing (I for one belong to that group now).
Also, don’t confuse “hate for Israel” with “skepticism of Israel”. They’ve stolen our military secrets (see Jonathan Pollard), have refused to extradite American-Israeli citizens wanted for crimes in the US, gets involved in our politics (see AIPAC versus Thomas Massie), commits war crimes against Christians (see Gaza and the West Bank) and have taken lots of money from our country. At the end of the day, they have been a net-negative for our country and would not exist without us since 1948.
Read the book, “Lobbying for Zionism on Both Sides of the Atlantic” (written by an Israeli. It will help inform you to the question you just asked.
Also, don’t confuse “hate for Israel” with “skepticism of Israel”. They’ve stolen our military secrets (see Jonathan Pollard), have refused to extradite American-Israeli citizens wanted for crimes in the US, gets involved in our politics (see AIPAC versus Thomas Massie), commits war crimes against Christians (see Gaza and the West Bank) and have taken lots of money from our country. At the end of the day, they have been a net-negative for our country and would not exist without us since 1948.
Read the book, “Lobbying for Zionism on Both Sides of the Atlantic” (written by an Israeli. It will help inform you to the question you just asked.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:28 pm to prplngldtigr
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It’s strange the blind support for a country filled with a religion that holds some VERY anti Christian views.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:28 pm to prplngldtigr
quote:I believe it was for worshiping Baal and sacrificing children for burnt offerings and consuming the flesh. Or at least that was in the book of Kings iirc
Tell me, biblically speaking - why did God expel the “chosen people” from the “chosen land”?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:30 pm to olehickory1767
Exactly what do you all believe has happened and been uncovered here just in the last couple or few years that suddenly drew everyone’s attention to this supposed Israeli influence problem??
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:32 pm to DiamondDog
Maybe folks are tired of them using their money to influence US policy and politicians.
Epstein was likely Mossad controlled.
Just know this, Israel’s leaders don’t care if you live or die. American Jews support the radical left. Maybe wake up and realize that.
Epstein was likely Mossad controlled.
Just know this, Israel’s leaders don’t care if you live or die. American Jews support the radical left. Maybe wake up and realize that.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:32 pm to DiamondDog
Israel will be completely on their own at some point. It is written.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:34 pm to prplngldtigr
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It’s strange the blind support for a country filled with a religion that holds some VERY anti Christian views.
You mistake the “support for Israel” when really it’s support of “God’s relationship with Israel”. I don’t respect the people. I respect HIM. For that, I tend to defer on Israel.
It’s like talking bad about someone you love’s wife. You just don’t do it if you care for that person. This is just on a bigger scale.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:36 pm to BigAL Golesh
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As a Christian I don't hate Israel or the Jewish people
And yet if you wear a cross in Israel, the people will spit on you.
Not to mention they assassinated Charlie Kirk. A young, energetic, influential devout Christian that would have been a US President. Nothing to see there
Is this a verifiable fact?
I've heard people on this forum talking about Candace Owens claiming some Israeli connection to Charlie Kirk's assassination but I've yet to see any receipts.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:36 pm to DiamondDog
You’re confusing hate with indifference. We don’t fricking care and are tired of it being shoved down our throats. I’m married to a Jewish woman and she’s more annoyed by it than me
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:37 pm to Bass Tiger
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As a Christian I don't hate Israel or the Jewish people. On the other hand I don't think the Christians in the US should blindly support Israel when some of Israel's political and national interests are not in the best interests of the US.
You said it much better than I did
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:43 pm to DiamondDog
Then you only refer to the land God created and not these Israelites.
They aren’t the same chosen people.
Supporting a past relationship with blood and treasure, when the current relationship is septic isn’t showing God love and respect. It’s actively working against God’s word.
There is evidence to suggest, as another poster has already given the historical context, Israel is aligned with Satan and we pay the fuel bill.
They aren’t the same chosen people.
Supporting a past relationship with blood and treasure, when the current relationship is septic isn’t showing God love and respect. It’s actively working against God’s word.
There is evidence to suggest, as another poster has already given the historical context, Israel is aligned with Satan and we pay the fuel bill.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:44 pm to DiamondDog
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Yes they have done some dirty stuff with the espionage and “bombing” us that one time
Yeah, and "some people did something" on 9/11.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:44 pm to DiamondDog
People don’t like broken promises at home and seeing money going to a foreign country and us to be their little lap dog.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:44 pm to DiamondDog
Hate comes from not just one direction of the compass. And if asking questions is hateful...sign me up 
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:45 pm to DiamondDog
I don't hate Israel. I am just tired of carrying their water. It's not a true alliance. They steal from us, lie to us, and we treat them like a sugar baby.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:49 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Thats not how political assassinations work. First they kill their target, then obfuscate the evidence by flooding the market with conspiracies, then move on. Leaving everyone guessing what really happened and a patsy to lay the blame on.
Is this a verifiable fact?
Las Vegas Shooting, Kennedy, Kirk. List goes on and on.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:50 pm to goatmilker
Yep if you just ask any question the bought and paid for politicians get upset and have people label you as a antisemite when it’s a question.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:50 pm to SallysHuman
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How do you do, fellow anti-semite? j/k
To the OP... the above poster I quoted highlights the problem quite nicely- doesn't have any particular "issue" with Israel outside of outsized influence on our national interest- yet that reasonable opinion gets reasonable people accused of "hating Israel".
If "reasonable people" are that offended by Israel they could vote out some of Israel's cheerleaders in Congress. How did all these pro-Israel people get anointed into their seats? It is a fricking mystery is what it is.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:51 pm to DiamondDog
I personally can’t thank Israel enough for the liberty attack, or stealing our nuclear secrets and selling them to the Soviets, or giving us intel that led to 20+ years in the Middle East and trillions of dollars and countless lives. Not to mention they did not on one occasion offer aid to our forces while we were over there and in need of help. Ask yourself why the Epstein files contained the term “goyim” so often.
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