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re: If Trump declares war on Venezuela tonight, is he breaking a campaign promise?

Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11942 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:34 pm to
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Just keep bombing the boats but up the frequency by a factor of 50


Yeah, I don't think there's any need to actually go to war with Venezuela. What they're already doing is effective.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:35 pm to
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If overthrowing South American thugs means I can enjoy going to major cities again without fent zombies everywhere


So if not for Venezuelan trafficking in Cocaine, we wouldn't have a Fentanyl zombie problem?

And speaking of "thugs", how about the American and EU thugs who've insisted on flooding both continents with dangerous 3rd world invaders? Forced the mRNA jab on a billion people? Stolen trillions from the American people?

"Thugs" is relative.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:35 pm to
You’re an idiot!
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:36 pm to
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Trump has never been a war hawk


Not until Jan 20, 2025. Then someone flipped a switch.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7945 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:36 pm to
Yea im on board smoking unflagged drug boats.

But I'm not on board with going to war.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
39571 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:39 pm to
No pass from me. This has nothing to do with fentanyl and it's 100% a campaign promise broken.

The people have no representatives in our government anymore. Sure as frick can't vote democrat, and the republicans are the same fricking party.
This post was edited on 12/17/25 at 2:39 pm
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38007 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:39 pm to
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Only Congress can declare war.

But we've been operating on end-arounds for decades that allow us to engage in "temporary" and "limited" campaigns lawfully.

At least a "temporary" campaign in Venezuela would accomplish something that directly affects our national security and citizens, as opposed to just throwing hundreds of billions at Ukraine and Israel and the Taliban for nothing while being subverted from within.

Fentanyl is a problem. Colombian and Venezuelan narcotics are a problem. TDA and cartels are a problem. China's involvement has at least been addressed on the surface, but there's still work to be done. China is assho.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23278 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:40 pm to
If he wants to send ground troops, no good.

If he is talking about using aircraft and drones to blow up some narco warehouses, productions facilities, etc. for two or three days.....meh.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2975 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:40 pm to
The President can not declare war.
Posted by Jasharts77
Knoxville
Member since Nov 2019
1107 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:40 pm to
Trump isnt the great fixer he told us he could be. Dude is an absolute joke and is definitely not a Christian
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11942 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:41 pm to
We will not be declaring war against Venezuela. Put down the brown bag. It's ok.
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
2966 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:42 pm to
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is he breaking a campaign promise?

Guess people won't vote for him next time


Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
1144 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:43 pm to
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There is zero evidence that Venezuela is the lynchpin of the fentanyl crisis.


I'm laughing because it's pretty much a joke of an excuse.

These are the reasons IMO:

Fentanyl: 1%.
Selling oil to China and voiding the dollar to make the trade: 69%.
Venezuela using oil dollars to cozy up to Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas: 30%
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
1144 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:45 pm to
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The people have no representatives in our government anymore. Sure as frick can't vote democrat, and the republicans are the same fricking party.


At least voting republican and it they win we get a couple of bones thrown our way. Not much but slightly better than Democrats.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
4012 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:46 pm to
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You’re an idiot!


I would apply that label to the people to believe any old bullshite that's thrown their way to justify yet another unneeded and ruinously expensive overseas war. Especially when it happens every 15 years or so.

But you did make really great arguments about why Venezuela is key to the fentanyl crisis, so maybe you're right. They probably have some-a-them weapons of mass destruction too. Mmm-hmm.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
4012 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:47 pm to
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I'm laughing because it's pretty much a joke of an excuse.

These are the reasons IMO:

Fentanyl: 1%.
Selling oil to China and voiding the dollar to make the trade: 69%.
Venezuela using oil dollars to cozy up to Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas: 30%


Also just good old fashioned regime change. Domino theory and all that stuff. It has been working really great for us over the last 75 years.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
4911 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:52 pm to
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No matter what he says in tonight's address, the same vaginas will be chaffed in the morning.

and the same trump jock sniffers will consider it a brilliant decision
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19321 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:52 pm to
Surely he’ll talk about a number of things but touting his economic successes following a disastrous 5 years will be the central theme
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76503 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:52 pm to
Who has the power to declare war slick?
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 12/17/25 at 2:54 pm to
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The President can not declare war.


Haven't you heard? Venezuela is now designated a "Terrorist" state. That gives this regime change war...er...Imperial mission "legitimacy".

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