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re: If local request unnecessary, why didn't Trump deploy National Guard earlier on J6?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:07 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:07 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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The deployment in California of the National Guard over Newsome's objection shows that the President has the power to deploy irrespective of what local authorities think.
Because J6 was not an insurrection by any definition.
quote:
?The law cited by Trump's proclamation places National Guard troops under federal command. The law says that can be done under three circumstances:
When the US is invaded or in danger of invasion;
when there is a rebellion or danger of rebellion against the authority of the US government,
or when the President is unable to "execute the laws of the United States," with regular forces.
It's pretty simple unless you suffer from TDS
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 12:08 pm
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:08 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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If the President can use his own judgment without local input (which is obviously true, Eisenhower/Little Rock, etc), why didn't President Trump go ahead and deploy the Guard in advance for crowd control on J6?
Let's pretend the two situations are comparable despite other posters proving they're not.
Your question essentially becomes, "Why did Trump learn from his past actions?"
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:09 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Show me how much damage was done on the darkest day in American history?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:10 pm to IvoryBillMatt
That was 4 years ago. Here is a thought - he learned something since then.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:10 pm to moneyg
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Order of events?
The most basic logic failures of people on the left is quite amazing.
Drink bleach. I'm not on the left. The President said he offered up to 20,000 troops before J6 to Pelosi and Mayor Bowser. President Trump said they turned him down, and that's why the National Guard wasn't deployed on J6. Are you calling President Trump a liar???
If President Trump thought Mayor Bowser had a right of refusal (turns out she didn't), why didn't he think Governor Newsome had a right of refusal?
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:11 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answers?
Speaker Pelosi denied his offer. She’s in charge of security for the Capitol.
We’ve been all over this since January 6,2020.
Speaker Pelosi denied his offer. She’s in charge of security for the Capitol.
We’ve been all over this since January 6,2020.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:12 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Drink bleach. I'm not on the left. The President said he offered 20,000 troops before J6 to Pelosi and Mayor Bowser. President Trump said they turned him down, and that's why the National Guard wasn't deployed on J6. Are you calling President Trump a liar???
No. I’m telling you that the calculus as to whether the President can/should do it is majorly changed once rioting has already begun.
And of course you are on the left. You aren’t fooling anyone.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:12 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:J6 National Guard deployment, based on the documented timeline of the request to Pelosi, would have been preemptive (as in before an emergency existed).
The President is Commander in Chief of the DC National Guard.
The President would not dare send in federalized troops to a district governed by the legislature (that is the 'governor') prior to an emergency or district existed.
That WAS the trap. Hence the agitators. You send in troops while contesting the election? That would have been a real, provable, insurrection.
Yes, Trump had the option.
Pelosi had the DUTY.
Pelosi did not do her duty because it was a trap.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:13 pm to IvoryBillMatt
On J6 he was allowing some deference to the Mayor and Speaker as a form if courtesy.
He has since then learned to give democRats no courtesy.
He has since then learned to give democRats no courtesy.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:16 pm to Barbados
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Didn't Pelosi turn it down
Trump mentioned during meetings, but the idea wasn't deemed necessary.
Dems can say Trump never ordered national guard troops, which id factually true, but contextually, with no response from the Dems(Pelosi) there was no reason for Trump to order national guard troops.
Its the same mind frick game Dems play and only the dumb or willfully ignorant folks accept it.
If Pelosi( who was responsible for the security) wanted national guard troops, all she had to do was accept Trumps offer.
Wonder why she didn't???? Probably cuz she knew the Dem plan was to spark a riot using FBI plants.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:17 pm to I20goon
quote:
Yes, Trump had the option.
Pelosi had the DUTY.
Pelosi did not do her duty because it was a trap
This guy gets it
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:23 pm to IvoryBillMatt
DC mayor has to make a request to deploy the national guard in DC then the president approves or not.
The Capitol police is controlled by the speaker of the House.
Do y’all want Trump to follow the law or not?
The Capitol police is controlled by the speaker of the House.
Do y’all want Trump to follow the law or not?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:26 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:He tried. Milley disobeyed orders of the Commander-in-Chief. Let that sink in.
If local request unnecessary, why didn't Trump deploy National Guard earlier on J6?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:31 pm to NC_Tigah
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He tried. Milley disobeyed orders of the Commander-in-Chief. Let that sink in.
That's what I am coming to believe. THIS should be an enormous story.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:54 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answers?
Speaker Pelosi denied his offer. She’s in charge of security for the Capitol.
We’ve been all over this since January 6,2020.
Newsome is Commander in Chief of the California National Guard. He's in charge of security for California. So, no, I didn't know the answer...and still don't.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:55 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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That's what I am coming to believe. THIS should be an enormous story.
Trump’s command and Milley’s disobedience is a well documented fact that no one has even questioned.
If Milley had obeyed Trump, J6 never would have happened. That’s why the folks saying Trump wanted this to happen are just wrong and not accepting reality. Also, military commands aren’t suggestions, they are orders. Milley should have been brought up on charges for that alone.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:58 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Many on the Board HATE questions
Posted on 6/9/25 at 12:59 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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the vast majority of J6 protestors were nonviolent and had no intention of going into the Capitol.
You answered your own question. There wasn’t any real violence on J6 until the paid trouble makers started it.
Posted on 6/9/25 at 1:14 pm to IvoryBillMatt
You and that Rauol guy are some grade A trolls.
Where do you retards come from, Reddit, DU, BlueSky?
Posted on 6/9/25 at 1:16 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Look at this retarded bastard conflating what's going on in LA with January 06.
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