re: I would be OK with banning AR style weapons

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Tigerlaff you make a good point about protecting ourselves from government and It wasn't that long ago that japanese americans were rounded up. But I would argue that most of these ppl didn't own guns at all or didn't care enough to use them.

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Oh. Well I guess what happened to them is OK, then. Maybe in the dystopian future (which we have just established is frighteningly possible or even probable over the long term) when they try to round up capitalists, or democrats, or Hispanics, maybe they will also not think it worth it to resist. Let's take that choice out of their hands so we can protect a few hundred people today.

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My point is that if the government comes for you one day you think it will really matter if you have an AR-15 or a .270 bolt action and a shotgun?

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Probably, but I'm not willing to find out, in any event.

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I would argue the outcome would still be the same and you could make a damn strong stand either way. If enough ppl felt as you did you could ban together and form a sufficient defense to raise a resistance

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Tell that to the the French and their cross bows at Crecy.

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I break ranks and push for some gun regulations. The main reason being is that the issue is a bludgeon used against Republicans.

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So in your mind not passing irrational gun law would be a bludgeon used against republicans...

But...

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Ban private party sales.
Raise the age to 21.
Ban clips over a certain capacity.
Ban certain types of guns that aren't really commonly used for self defense or hunting.
Ban bump stocks.

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wouldn't?

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Sure you'd lose some rights and freedom but on the flip side of that you take away one of the major criticisms people have about your party's stubbornness

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You're far scarier than any gun owner I've ever met.

So you want to ban all autoloading semi automatics rifles? Or just AR style autoloading semiautomatic rifles?

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Just like drugs.

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Exactly like drugs.

Marijuana in legal states is way cheaper.

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If regulating the sale and ownership of guns is that scary to you then you may be a bit indoctrinated, considering how regulated everything else in our lives is. You would still be able to buy guns.

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A voice of reason appears. Welcome to the thread.

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I'm being very reasonable on this.

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Do you have a compromise in mind? Or is this another exercise of me giving up more of the territory I already hold and you giving me nothing? I bet it's the latter.

How about this: all firearm purchases of any kind whatsoever now require an intense, multi day background check, including a fingerprinting checked by the FBI. Any violent felony, domestic violence misdemeanor, or conviction for terroristic threats bars the purchase. Anyone convicted of any violent gun crime of any sort gets gets 30 years minimum. A certified physician's note indicating no prior dangerous mental health issues must be provided by the buyer for all purchases. In exchange, full auto shoulder fired rifles and pistols manufactured after 1986 can now be purchased by the public just like any other NFA item.

I don't want this deal, but interested in your response.

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A voice of reason appears. Welcome to the thread.

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"reasonable" is anything you agree with, "unreasonable" is anything you disagree with.

Here is what grinds my gears: you people MELT DOWN when trump tries to implement ANY sort of immigration policy change, whether it be the travel ban or whatever, to try to "do something" to stop terrorism.

The constitution gives the government FAR MORE POWER over immigration than gun regulation, yet you guys put your feel firmly in the dirt and refuse to give an inch on immigration because "it is an american value'

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Sure you'd lose some rights and freedom but on the flip side of that you take away one of the major criticisms people have about your party's stubbornness

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I agree with placing some common sense restrictions onto ownership of assault rifles. but I wouldn't do it for political gain. Because its the right thing to do.

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Here is what grinds my gears: you people MELT DOWN when trump tries to implement ANY sort of immigration policy change, whether it be the travel ban or whatever, to try to "do something" to stop terrorism

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Slow your role bro. I'm MAGA as frick. I'm on the Trump train with immigration. You just assume b/c I'm for some gun restricitons i'm full on Nancy Pelosi liberal. Not even close

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The risk of totalitarian government outweigh all the rest of your emotional bullshite

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So you're really going to argue that the only way to mitigate the risk of a totalitarian government is for the populace to have unmitigated access to assault rifles. Like that's the be all end all A-bomb MADD defense. You can still own a shite ton of guns bro. Rifles, pistols, shotguns etc. You can even keep your AR's that you have now. Just can't buy any new ones, or have to pass tougher regulations to get one. Give an inch man.