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re: I Wonder why Crime is down in DC & Memphis? What could it be?

Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:42 pm to
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lol at you sucking off Biden when you know what you posted is bs.


You know we had these same discussions when Biden was President and I did not give him any credit, right?

Here is an example of a thread from 2024 on the subject.

There were literally dozens of similar threads where I had the literal same arguments that have been proven to be true over time. I believe some were from 2023, even.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
10017 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:42 pm to
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Define that for us.


“us gets it”

You don’t
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17467 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:42 pm to
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Wouldn't this be a win for...Biden?


You failed to read your own entire linked article:

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Another key component of this proactive approach was implementing in April 2022, Project Safe Neighborhood - a daily review by the Office and our law enforcement partners of every firearms arrest in the District to determine, using objective criteria about the person arrested and the firearm recovered, whether the case should be charged in U.S. District Court or D.C. Superior Court. Since April 2022, the Office has accepted for prosecution in U.S. District Court more than 150 gun offenders under this initiative.
This post was edited on 4/17/26 at 2:43 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:47 pm to
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implementing in April 2022


Was this when Trump was secretly running the government via the Army?
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:51 pm to
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TDSFP wants to give Biden the credit soooooooo bad!


But the numbers don’t show that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:53 pm to
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But the numbers don’t show that.


The numbers show there isn't any specific policy that led to any decrease.

There was just a spike in crime (and other pathologies, mind you) that started nationally in 2021 that started a precipitous decline about Q3 in 2023, and that decline has continued nationally through 2025 and into 2026.

It's not Biden and certainly isn't Trump. The data isn't fake, either, which was the last excuse when Biden was in office.

I have literally been explaining this to y'all since 2024.

However the hypocrisy on the issue is noted.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:55 pm to
We know why
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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476619 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:57 pm to
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We know why

We do?

Why did crime start falling in 2023?

A better question is why crime started increasing in 2021, but we can go with your confident answer.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70612 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 2:59 pm to
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we can go with your confident answer.



Good, glad we cleared that up for you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:00 pm to
Why did crime start falling in 2023?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70612 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:02 pm to
Numbers to support that?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16390 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:04 pm to
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I can speak to the Memphis situation. See, what happened was people started talking to the citizens of Memphis and telling them they were going down a wrong path and making bad life decisions. They realized the error of their ways and started acting right. That's exactly what transpired.


So the brothers quit gang banging and gave up all that money and jewry because someone splained it to them?

Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
10017 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:06 pm to
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We know why



TRUMP sent the National Guard into DC last August.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:06 pm to
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Americans tend to think that crime is rising, but the evidence we have right now points to sizable declines this year (even if there are always outliers). The quarterly data in particular suggests 2023 featured one of the lowest rates of violent crime in the United States in more than 50 years.

Murder is down 12.7 percent in our YTD murder dashboard as of this writing (December 7th) with a decline in 73 percent of the more than 175 cities with available data. The sample suggests either the largest or one of the largest national declines in murder on record occurred this year (both in terms of percent and absolute decline).


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Murder is down 13.4 percent in cities under 100,000 with data in the sample and it’s down 12.6 percent in cities with 250,000 or more.

Murder was almost certainly still higher in 2023 than in 2019 even with a record double-digit decline nationally this year, but not by much. Most of the surge in murder that occurred in 2020 and 2021 has abated across the country.


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The quarterly data shows violent crime down in big cities, small cities, suburban counties, and rural counties, pretty much across the board. The property crime trend is similar though surging auto theft in bigger cities is tamping down the overall decline.

The decline in crime shown in the quarterly data — if realized — would be historically large. To put some of this in perspective, a 4 percent decline in the nation’s violent crime rate relative to 2022’s reported rate would lead to the lowest violent crime rate nationally since 1969.

An 8 percent decline in the nation’s violent crime rate — as is suggested is possible by the quarterly data — would look something like this:


Posted by MongoSooner
Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2024
108 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:08 pm to
Of course they’re going down. The Biden and soros DAs around the country were able to make crime stats seem as though they were falling, when in fact those DAs were refusing to take many of those cases to trial. No charges, no crime.
I love how the left loves to throw stats around. The stats that crime is lower have been manipulated, probably by the same people that tried to tell us every death ina America was somehow related to Covid. Who makes up these stats and who is responsible for analyzing these statistics? In the leftist power structure, it would be the same people doing both.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:09 pm to
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TRUMP sent the National Guard into DC last August.


What did he do in Baltimore? New York City? Chicago?

Detroit?

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The city issued preliminary data showing Detroit ended the year with 165 criminal homicides, down 19% from 2024 and 35% from 2023. Compared to 2024, nonfatal shootings fell 26% to 447, while carjackings dropped 46% to 77, which the city said is an 84% reduction since 2015.


California?

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For the second year in a row, Gov. Gavin Newsom is celebrating California’s declining homicide rate while using it as a cudgel against his political foes.

“Your state’s homicide rate is 117% higher than California’s,” he told a Missouri congressman who needled Newsom on social media last summer.

Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders caught his attention, too. “Your homicide rate is literally DOUBLE California’s,” he wrote on social media addressing her.


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“California cities are seeing record-low homicide rates,” Newsom said in his state of the state speech earlier this month. “Oakland, the lowest since 1967; LA, the lowest since 1966; and San Francisco, the lowest since 1954.”

After a spike during the early days of the pandemic, homicides are in fact down nationwide.

The reason why is far less clear. To put it in the language of crime researchers, the answer is “multifactorial.”
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:10 pm to
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Of course they’re going down. The Biden and soros DAs around the country were able to make crime stats seem as though they were falling, when in fact those DAs were refusing to take many of those cases to trial. No charges, no crime.
I love how the left loves to throw stats around. The stats that crime is lower have been manipulated, probably by the same people that tried to tell us every death ina America was somehow related to Covid. Who makes up these stats and who is responsible for analyzing these statistics? In the leftist power structure, it would be the same people doing both.

All you're doing is arguing Trump is also using fake stats, which is retarded.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20198 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:16 pm to
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The fact that DC implemented all of these only to do the same as everywhere else doesn't indicate these idiosyncratic policies did much. This is similar to the myth about Rudy and NYC, who implemented his policies at the right time when crime was already going down (and going down everywhere).


Prove your statement and prove it hasn’t been hampered by Blue Cities underreporting due to the change in the FBI database. Otherwise shut the frick up and stop trying to be an obtuse contrarian!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:19 pm to
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t and prove it hasn’t been hampered by Blue Cities underreporting due to the change in the FBI database.


You don't even understand what you're talking about by trying to use this

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Prove your statement and prove it hasn’t been hampered by Blue Cities

Washington DC is a blue city. Did Trump play a role in "hampering"? Of course not.

You can't claim the "fake stats" stuff for 2023-2024 and then claim the 2025-2026 stats are real. Pick a lane, either they're all real or all fake
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2377 posts
Posted on 4/17/26 at 3:22 pm to
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The same as almost everywhere else following the post-Covid spike.



So we are saying that the COVID spike lasted 4 years?

Homicides increased for 4 straight years and then suddenly declined in 2024.

Illegal crossings increased dramatically under Biden and then declined in 2024.

It is almost as if people during Biden's admin only cared about enforcing laws in 2024 during campaign season. I wonder why.

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