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I still would love to know why killing a pregnant woman is two counts of murder
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:31 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:31 am
but abortion isn't.
Truly an honest question. Can anyone reconcile this for me?
Truly an honest question. Can anyone reconcile this for me?
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:33 am to tiger91
You cannot reconcile insanity
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:33 am to tiger91
because abortion is only 1 count
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:33 am to tiger91
because dems dont have to make sense when everything is about the feeeeeeeels
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:34 am to tiger91
quote:
Truly an honest question. Can anyone reconcile this for me?
Apparently it’s ok to choose to kill your own baby. But if it’s not your choice, it’s murder.
Since the baby doesn’t have a choice (or vote) the law doesn’t care about their opinion.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:35 am to tiger91
Or why Hillary didn’t go to jail because she didn’t have “intent” to do what she did but the “intent” to abort your child makes it legal while unintentionally killing a pregnant woman after running a red light makes you guilty of two offenses.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:36 am to tiger91
I'll pull out the classic.
"That's (D)ifferent."
"That's (D)ifferent."
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:39 am to tiger91
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but abortion isn't
Because the mother is intended to keep the pregnancy, so it's justice for the mother, not for her fetus.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:39 am to tiger91
Are democrats solidly for a double murder charge for killing a pregnant woman?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:14 pm to Fells
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Because the mother is intended to keep the pregnancy, so it's justice for the mother, not for her fetus.
So if the mother *wants* the fetus, anyone killing it is charged with murder?
But if the mother *doesn't want* the fetus, she can kill it, or enlist others to help her kill it, and that's healthcare?
I can't think of any other times in human history where determining a person's right to live based on how much other people value that life has ended badly...
Posted on 6/24/22 at 12:19 pm to Lightning
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where determining a person's right to live
That's where your confusion is. A fetus is not a person. A person is defined by a brain, so a fetus, lacking the physical infrastructure necessary to have a "self", cannot achieve personhood.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:01 pm to Fells
quote:
That's where your confusion is. A fetus is not a person. A person is defined by a brain, so a fetus, lacking the physical infrastructure necessary to have a "self", cannot achieve personhood.
Am I confused?
quote:
The fetal brain begins to develop during the third week of gestation. Neural progenitor cells begin to divide and differentiate into neurons and glia, the two cell types that form the basis of the nervous system.6
By the ninth week, the brain appears as a small, smooth structure.
Just in case you want to point out that brain development *begins* at 3 weeks gestation but isn't complete, let me remind you:
quote:
Human brain development starts soon after conception and continues into early adulthood.
So at what point between 3 weeks gestation and early adulthood does the fetus achieve personhood?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:11 pm to dsides
quote:You are being snide, but this IS the answer.
Truly an honest question. Can anyone reconcile this for me?quote:
Apparently it’s ok to choose to kill your own baby. But if it’s not your choice, it’s murder. Since the baby doesn’t have a choice (or vote) the law doesn’t care about their opinion.
Fetal homicide is a perp taking something (a living fetus) from a living, breathing person with rights, who WANTS that fetus.
Personally, I think it should be a punishment enhancement rather than a separate offense, but that is legislative pandering for you.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:12 pm to Lightning
quote:In some states, yes.
So if the mother *wants* the fetus, anyone killing it is charged with murder?
quote:Not anymore.
But if the mother *doesn't want* the fetus, she can kill it, or enlist others to help her kill it, and that's healthcare?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:13 pm to Fells
quote:But it has a haaaaaaaaart beeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!!!!
where determining a person's right to livequote:
That's where your confusion is. A fetus is not a person. A person is defined by a brain, so a fetus, lacking the physical infrastructure necessary to have a "self", cannot achieve personhood.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:13 pm to tiger91
quote:
I still would love to know why killing a pregnant woman is two counts of murder
Because it still is.
quote:
but abortion isn't.
Well, if a singleton, it is one count. Of murder.
Saying it isn't, calling it something else, screaming about women's "right"/"choice"/"health" doesn't change a single thing about the murder.
quote:
Truly an honest question. Can anyone reconcile this for me?
The country/culture has a fever. We've been sweating it out for over 60 years. Almost since the giddy high of winning a really big war wore off.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:14 pm to tiger91
Menstruating person,.....racist.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:14 pm to tiger91
quote:
but abortion isn't.
Truly an honest question. Can anyone reconcile this for me?
This ^^^ question has been asked for decades and not one Groomer can give a logical or coherent explanation.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:15 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:Provided by three different posters in this very thread.
logical or coherent explanation.
You just don't like it.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:16 pm to AggieHank86
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Fetal homicide is a perp taking something (a living fetus) from a living, breathing person with rights, who WANTS that fetus.
So, in your mind, the victim of "fetal homicide" is the mother?
Unborn children are equivalent to property in your world?
Interesting. So, what if the mother wants and abortion, but the father doesn't? The father has no property "rights" to the unborn child, but has 1/2 responsibility for the live birth until age of majority?
What an interesting and "enlightened" position to which we've evolved in the 21st Century...
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