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re: I figured out why Democrats are pushing this vaccine so damn hard. They need a scapegoat.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 9:59 am to BornCritic
Posted on 7/16/21 at 9:59 am to BornCritic
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Please tell me this isn't true.
Think about how long we've known about the Delta variant and how long ago the first case was in LA. If I recall correctly that was the middle of June or so. It is good sense to expect if you got 1 case of Delta variant then you've got more.
However, the case count in LA didn't really start to increase until the last couple of weeks....I wonder why that is?
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:03 am to goldennugget
I downvoted because I think it's unwise to compare anything short of genocide to the Holocaust.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:03 am to goldennugget
It’s hard for them to have any credibility when they don’t count those that have had COVID with those vaccinated.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:11 am to IceTiger
quote:Stfu. I'm as conservative as anyone. This is ridiculous. You absolutely do not know more that have died from the vaccine than from Covid.
I personally know more people dead from the vaccine than from the virus.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:19 am to goldennugget
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So when the Biden administration advocates for more lockdowns, more mask mandates, less freedoms, less liberty, vaccine passports, they are hoping that the American people get mad at their boogeyman, the unvaccinated, instead of the tyrannical government
This is truly where we are. Consider this, the COVID response has been a test run for other, more draconian plans just like 9/11. What are those plans? Betting on Green New Deal or Universal Healthcare.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:20 am to goldennugget
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:23 am to LSU316
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However, the case count in LA didn't really start to increase until the last couple of weeks....I wonder why that is?
Fun with numbers?
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:29 am to cajunangelle
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they can take the heat off of blame towards Der Führer Biden; and blame dumb redneck deplorable domestic terrorists.
Its all about blame shifting. That's what its all about. They need a boogeyman, a scapegoat to take the heat off of themselves when they push for unpopular mandates.
"We didn't HAVE to do this but those damn unvaccinated heathens left us no choice!"
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:31 am to LSU316
What percentage of vaccinated people are getting reinfected?
What percentage of vaccinated people are having major complications as a result of vaccination?
What percentage of the unvaccinated public is coming up with COVID right now?
The NC State bullshite in the NCAA baseball tournament has me severely mistrusting the vaccine in part because unvaccinated people were coming up clean but vaccinated people were not.
What percentage of vaccinated people are having major complications as a result of vaccination?
What percentage of the unvaccinated public is coming up with COVID right now?
The NC State bullshite in the NCAA baseball tournament has me severely mistrusting the vaccine in part because unvaccinated people were coming up clean but vaccinated people were not.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:32 am to Diamondawg
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All of those Trump supporting blacks that are fearful of the vaccines? They need to tread lightly around that one. Their own communist CDC reveals that only 12% of poc have had both jabs.
Democrats have been throwing black people under the bus for their entire existence. Do you really think they care for them now? They likely WANT this to effect the black community more. All the CRT and equity talk is nothing more than that. Talk.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:35 am to StrongOffer
quote:Yeah I call BS on this fringe concept that everybody is gonna die from the vax.
I personally know more people dead from the vaccine than from the virus.
Stfu. I'm as conservative as anyone. This is ridiculous. You absolutely do not know more that have died from the vaccine than from Covid.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:39 am to teke184
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What percentage of vaccinated people are getting reinfected?
From what I can tell from talking to actual doctors it is incredibly low. Again I won't take anything I read in the media at face value at all on COVID numbers.
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What percentage of vaccinated people are having major complications as a result of vaccination?
Even if you take the VAERS numbers to heart (which i don't) it is still low.
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What percentage of the unvaccinated public is coming up with COVID right now?
I've had several doctors tell me that they've seen an uptick into the 10's of people per day testing positive (again I think this is bullshite....not from the doctor's perspective but from the lab doing the testing) yet they still rarely see any vaccinated people testing positive.
So I don't know the percentage but from talking to people it still seems to be incredibly low.
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The NC State bullshite in the NCAA baseball tournament has me severely mistrusting the vaccine in part because unvaccinated people were coming up clean but vaccinated people were not.
In my mind you have more a beef with the testing here rather than the vaccine....I think even if you believe the reported numbers even those numbers don't bear out what happened with NC State. One way or the other something was fishy with that situation.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:40 am to teke184
No, no you don’t.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:41 am to LSU316
I don’t know a single intelligent person in real life who is anti vaccine. This board is embarrassing on the subject.
However, I can still agree with GN’s point to some degree. They plan on using Muh red states and voters as a scape goat. It’ll ramp up right before winter.
However, I can still agree with GN’s point to some degree. They plan on using Muh red states and voters as a scape goat. It’ll ramp up right before winter.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:44 am to NIH
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They plan on using Muh red states and voters as a scape goat.
No doubt even if it is just a convenient side effect of the main agenda.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:44 am to LSU316
My questions are both with testing and complications.
If people aren’t coming down with COVID and those who do are typically not seeing major complications, it makes the vaccine questionable considering the rate of side effects vs the symptoms of infection.
I may be interested in the chicken pox vaccination but if the chance of actually getting chicken pox from it is high enough, it is better to take my chances avoiding exposure to the disease.
If people aren’t coming down with COVID and those who do are typically not seeing major complications, it makes the vaccine questionable considering the rate of side effects vs the symptoms of infection.
I may be interested in the chicken pox vaccination but if the chance of actually getting chicken pox from it is high enough, it is better to take my chances avoiding exposure to the disease.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:49 am to teke184
The problem is testing skews everything.
They make the "case count" look so bad to scare everyone into getting the vaccine. Then when the vaccine is out they skew back the PCR threshold so that there aren't as many positives. Now vaccine use is down (aka big money donors aren't getting paid if more vaccines aren't being sold) so lets talk up some variants, dial up the PCR threshold, and increase the case count to get the vaccine numbers up.
I mean the fact that the lab can manipulate the test criteria (for lack of a better term) in such a way that can increase and decrease positive test results is absolutely shite-tastic.
They make the "case count" look so bad to scare everyone into getting the vaccine. Then when the vaccine is out they skew back the PCR threshold so that there aren't as many positives. Now vaccine use is down (aka big money donors aren't getting paid if more vaccines aren't being sold) so lets talk up some variants, dial up the PCR threshold, and increase the case count to get the vaccine numbers up.
I mean the fact that the lab can manipulate the test criteria (for lack of a better term) in such a way that can increase and decrease positive test results is absolutely shite-tastic.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:49 am to LSU316
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I don't personally know anyone dead from either.
I personally know two people who were hospitalized with Covid. Both were pretty serious cases. One was on a vent for 30+ days (some interesting stuff from that one). I know one person who was hospitalized due to complications from the vaccine. Blood clots.
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 10:50 am
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:00 am to LSUfan20005
I personally know more people dead from the vaccine than from the virus.
Really? Let's see some reliable stats. "
"I personally know more people dead from the vaccine than from the virus" does not clear the smell test.
Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:03 am to cajunangelle
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Yeah I call BS on this fringe concept that everybody is gonna die from the vax.
What if the next booster is a reactionary to the first Covid vaccine? So along comes the ZETA variant and the booster for it reacts with the vaccine and, out you go. When the GOVERNMENT is pushing this hard for you to put something in your body, you better be a little cautious.
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